Not like that, but there is the interesting story by Stuart Shieber on the Journal of Machine Learning: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2012/03/06/an-efficient-journal/
__________________________________________________ Falk Reckling, PhD Social Science and Humanities / Strategic Analysis / Open Access Head of Units Austrian Science Fund (FWF) Sensengasse 1 A-1090 Vienna email: falk.reckl...@fwf.ac.at<mailto:falk.reckl...@fwf.ac.at> Tel.: +43-1-5056740-8301 Mobil: + 43-699-19010147 Web: http://www.fwf.ac.at/de/contact/personen/reckling_falk.html ________________________________ Von: goal-boun...@eprints.org [goal-boun...@eprints.org]" im Auftrag von "Eric F. Van de Velde [eric.f.vandeve...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012 20:39 An: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Betreff: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access For funders that already have set up a Green OA mandate with an funder-sponsored repository, it would be a relatively small additional investment to sponsor journals. They would not have to manage it themselves. They could put out a periodic Request for Proposals to manage journals on their behalf. Any scholarly publisher or start-up could compete for that business, thereby ensuring the management is done at minimal cost. The only thing the funder would have to do is put together editorial boards. This is something they already do when they put together proposal-review panels. The result would be Gold Libre OA without author-paid fees. The cost to research funders is likely minimal, and they would gain a significant quality-assessment tool. In fact, these are Gold OA journals that would not have the "vanity-press incentive" built-in when Gold OA is paid for by authors (the so-called predatory Gold OA journals). Would such a model be workable? Any unintended consequences? Has it been tried anywhere? --Eric. http://scitechsociety.blogspot.com Google Voice: (626) 898-5415 Telephone: (626) 376-5415 Skype: efvandevelde -- Twitter: @evdvelde E-mail: eric.f.vandeve...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.f.vandeve...@gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jean-Claude Guédon <jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca<mailto:jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca>> wrote: Like Stevan Harnad, I say: enough with colours! The important thing to remember is that gold OA is not, repeat *NOT* limited to author-pay schemes. There are indeed many journals that are gratis to authors and libre to readers (e.g. SciELO and RedALyC journals in latin America and beyond). To my mind, this is the optimal version of Gold. Jean-Claude Guédon Le jeudi 26 juillet 2012 à 06:16 -0600, Beall, Jeffrey a écrit : I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. Author fees + free to reader = gold open access No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant and worthy of a separate appellation. Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor Auraria Library University of Colorado Denver 1100 Lawrence St. Denver, Colo. 80204 USA (303) 556-5936<tel:%28303%29%20556-5936> jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu<mailto:jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu> -----Original Message----- From: goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org> [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Reckling, Falk, Dr. Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal does not necesserily mean to charges article fees! Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA journals, most of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which is a good predictor of being successful in the long run) a) E-conomics (institutional funding): http://www.economics-ejournal.org/ b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/ c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding): http://journals.iza.org/ d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now society based funding): http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields. What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ... Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: http://peerj.com/ In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs ... Best Falk Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk<mailto:l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk>" <l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk<mailto:l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk>>: > The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they play > major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities > scholarship. And also it's still the case that traditional print > journals involve long print cues and delays in publication. And also > it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous subscription > charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding for monographs > (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put pressure on > Humanities to cut their journals. > Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" with > pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars. > So, please, no snap and simple replies. Let's engage the problems. > Larry Hurtado > > Quoting Jan Szczepanski > <jan.szczepansk...@gmail.com<mailto:jan.szczepansk...@gmail.com>> on Wed, 25 > Jul > 2012 22:53:06 +0200: > >> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and >> social sciences of any importance in this discussion? >> >> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> 2012/7/25 <l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk<mailto:l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk>>: >>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a >>> few days ago. >>> Larry Hurtado >>> >>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access >>> <oa.openacc...@gmail.com<mailto:oa.openacc...@gmail.com>> on Wed, 25 >>> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400: >>> >>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open >>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no >>>> >>>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research >>>> Fortnight website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for >>>> open access." >>>> <http://www.researchresearch.com/index.php?option=com_news&template >>>> =rr_2col&view=article&articleId=1214091> Check it out. >>>> >>>> Webster observes that much of the current conversation around the >>>> growth of open access focuses on the sciences and use of an >>>> "author-pays" business model. He feels inadequate attention in the >>>> conversation has been given to the unique needs of humanities >>>> scholarship, and why it may be harder for humanist scholars to >>>> embrace open access based on the "author-pays" model. >>>> >>>> "There is no Public Library of History to match the phenomenally >>>> successful Public Library of Science." >>>> . >>>> >>>> Your comments are welcome. >>>> >>>> Gary F. Daught >>>> Omega Alpha | Open Access >>>> Advocate for open access academic publishing in religion and >>>> theology http://oaopenaccess.wordpress.com oa.openaccess @ >>>> gmail.com<http://gmail.com> | @OAopenaccess >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> GOAL mailing list >>>> GOAL@eprints.org<mailto:GOAL@eprints.org> >>>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> L. W. Hurtado, PhD, FRSE >>> Emeritus Professor of New Testament Language, Literature & Theology >>> Honorary Professorial Fellow New College (School of Divinity) >>> University of Edinburgh Mound Place Edinburgh, UK. EH1 2LX Office >>> Phone: (0)131 650 8920. FAX: (0)131 650 7952 >>> www.ed.ac.uk/divinity<http://www.ed.ac.uk/divinity> >>> >>> -- >>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GOAL mailing list >>> GOAL@eprints.org<mailto:GOAL@eprints.org> >>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> >> >> >> -- >> Jan Szczepański >> F.d Förste bibliotekare och chef för f.d Avdelningen för humaniora >> vid Göteborgs universitetsbibliotek >> E-post: jan.szczepansk...@gmail.com<mailto:jan.szczepansk...@gmail.com> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> GOAL@eprints.org<mailto:GOAL@eprints.org> >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> > > > > L. W. 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