I would definitely support this. Laurent Le 9 oct. 2012 à 23:28, Peter Murray-Rust a écrit :
> > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Jan Velterop <velte...@gmail.com> wrote: > There is an inconsistency here, either way. We've always heard, from Stevan > Harnad, that the author was the one who intrinsically had copyright on the > manuscript version, so could deposit it, as an open access article, in an > open repository irrespective of the publisher's views. If that is correct, > then the author could also attach a CC-BY licence to the manuscript version. > If it is incorrect, the author can't deposit the manuscript with open access > without the explicit permission of the publisher of his final, published > version, and the argument advanced for more than a decade by Stevan Harnad is > invalid. Which is it? I think Stevan was right, and a manuscript can be > deposited with open access whether or not the publisher likes it. Whence his > U-turn, I don't know. But if he was right at first, and I believe that's the > case, that also means that it can be covered by a CC-BY licence. Repositories > can't attach the licence, but 'gold' OA publishers can't either. It's always > the author, as copyright holder by default. All repositories and OA > publishers can do is require it as a condition of acceptance (to be included > in the repository or to be published). What the publisher can do if he > doesn't like the author making available the manuscript with open access, is > apply the Ingelfinger rule or simply refuse to publish the article. > > > Jan, > I think this is very important. > > If we can establish the idea of Green-CC-BY as the norm for deposition in > repositories then I would embrace it enthusiastically. I can see no downside > other than that some publishers will fight it. But they fight anyway > > It also clairfies the difference between the final author ms and the > publisher version of record. > > It would resolve all the apparent problems of the Finch reoprt etc. It is > only because Green licences are undefined that we have this problem at all. > > And if we all agreed it could be launched for Open Access Week > > -- > Peter Murray-Rust > Reader in Molecular Informatics > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry > University of Cambridge > CB2 1EW, UK > +44-1223-763069 > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal Laurent Romary INRIA & HUB-IDSL laurent.rom...@inria.fr
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