On 2013-02-25, at 7:51 AM, CHARLES OPPENHEIM <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with Stevan.  If this really takes effect, it is good news indeed. A 
> pity it wasn't implemented for the 2014 REF….

The agreement is not altogether a surprise, since Charles himself jointly 
proposed this in Ariadne with Les Carr, Tim Brody and myself way back in 2003!

Mandated online RAE CVs Linked to University Eprint Archives: Improving the UK 
Research Assessment Exercise whilst making it cheaper and easier

Stevan

> 
> Charles
>  
> Professor Charles Oppenheim
> From: Stevan Harnad <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 12:49
> Subject: Re: UK HEFCE Call for Comments: Open access and submissions to the 
> REF post-2014
> 
> Seb Schmoller has sent a better URL for the HEFCE REF Call for comments.
> 
> Stevan,
> http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/hefce/content/news/news/2013/open_access_letter.pdf
>  might be easier for some people.
> Seb Schmoller
> 
> I have read it all, very quickly, and it does look very promising, if I have 
> understood it correctly: 
> 
> The proposal (for the only category in which I have some expertise) is: 
> 
> To mandate that in order to be eligible for post-2014 REF
> all peer-reviewed journal articles submitted
> must be deposited in the author's institutional repository 
> immediately upon acceptance for publication,
> regardless of whether the article is published in a subscription journal or 
> in a Gold OA journal 
> (no preference, and no restriction on author's journal choice),
> and regardless of whether the publisher embargoes Open Access to the deposit 
> (for an allowable embargo period that remains to be decided.)
> 
> If I have understood this correctly, then there is only one ambiguity I think 
> I see, which I think needs to be resolved very clearly: 
> 
> There may be inter-discipline differences regarding the allowable OA embargo 
> length, but there should be no inter-discipline differences at all regarding 
> the immediate-deposit requirement itself. 
> 
> (Closed Access deposit has nothing to do with publisher policy, copyright, 
> embargoes, or discipline differences).
> 
> The proposed HEFCE REF OA policy looks much better than the current RCUK OA 
> policy. Let us hope that the RCUK policy will now be brought into line with 
> the proposed HEFCE REF policy.
> 
> It is also very reassuring to hear that the policy will be based on 
> collaboration and consultation.
> 
> This may help the UK regain its former worldwide leadership position in OA. 
> The new US policy developments (following, a decade later, in the UK's 
> pioneering footsteps) are extremely welcome and timely, but they still have 
> many rough edges. Let's hope it will be the UK that again shows how to smooth 
> them out and propel us all unstoppably to global OA. 
> 
> Stevan Harnad
> 
> 

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