This corresponds for instance to the Freemium scheme of OpenEdition. Under this scheme, papers are freely available in HTML and additional services are offered to libraries that have taken a subscription (ePub, pdf, cataloguing facilities, etc.) Laurent
Le 19 avr. 2013 à 07:52, Jan Velterop a écrit : > Are there examples of such "subscription journals that make their online > version freely accessible online (immediately upon publication)." > > Who would subscribe, and what would a subscription entail? > > Jan Velterop > > On 19 Apr 2013, at 05:16, Stevan Harnad <amscifo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jean-Claude Guédon >> <jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca> wrote: >> >> The reference to free Gold journals covered by subscriptions is not clear to >> me. Is this a reference to SCOAP3? >> >> It's a reference to all subscription journals that make their online version >> freely accessible online (immediately upon publication). >> >> (No, SCOAP3 is a premature and unnecessary post-hoc consortial "membership" >> scheme that I think will not prove sustainable. The HEP fields have already >> provided near 100% (Green) OA for 20 years, un-mandated. What's needed next >> is for institutions and funders to mandate that all other disciplines do >> likewise.) >> >> Stevan Harnad >> >> Le jeudi 18 avril 2013 à 07:45 +0100, Stevan Harnad a écrit : >>> >>> 1. The Green/Gold Open Access (OA) distinction concerns whether it is the >>> author or the publisher that provides the OA. >>> 2. This distinction was important to mark with clear terms because the >>> conflation of the two roads to OA has practical implications and has been >>> holding up OA progress for a decade and a half. >>> 3. The distinction between paid Gold and free Gold is very far from being a >>> straightforward one. >>> 4. Free Gold can be free (to the author) because the expenses of the Gold >>> journal are covered by subscriptions, subsidies or volunteerism. >>> 5. The funds for Paid Gold can come from the author's pocket, the author's >>> research grant, the author's institution or the author's funder. >>> 6. It would be both absurd and gratuitously confusing to mark each of these >>> economic-model differences with a color-code. >>> 7. Superfluous extra colors would also obscure the role that the >>> colour-code was invented to perform: distinguishing author-side OA >>> provision from publisher-side OA provision. >>> 8. So, please, let's not have "diamond," "platinum" and "titanium" OA, >>> despite the metallurgical temptations. >>> 9. They amplify noise instead of pinpointing the signal, just as >>> SHERPA/Romeo's parti-colored Blue/Yellow/Green spectrum (mercifully ignored >>> by almost everyone) does. >>> 10. OA is about providing Open Access to peer-reviewed journal articles, >>> not about cost-recovery models for OA publishing (Gold OA). >>> 11. The Gold that publishers are fighting for and that researcher funders >>> are subsidizing (whether "pure" or "hybrid") is paid Gold, not free Gold. >>> 12. No one knows whether or how free Gold will be sustainable, any more >>> than they know whether or how long subscription publishing can co-exist >>> viably with mandatory Green OA. >>> 13. So please leave the economic ideology and speculation out of the >>> pragmatics of OA policy making by the research community (institutions and >>> funders). >>> 14. Cost-recovery models are the province of publishers (Gold OA). >>> 15. What the research community needs to do is mandate OA provision. >>> 16. The only OA provision that is entirely in the research community's >>> hands is Green OA. >>> And, before you ask, please let's not play into the publishers' hands by >>> colour-coding OA also in terms of the length of the publisher embargo: >>> 3-month OA, 6-month OA, 12-month-OA, 24-month-OA, millennial OA: OA means >>> immediate online access. Anything else is delayed access. (The only >>> quasi-exception is the "Almost-OA" provided by the author via the >>> institutional repository's email-eprint-request Button when complying with >>> publisher embargoes -- but that too is clearly not OA, which is immediate, >>> free online access.) >>> And on no account should the genuine, substantive distinction between >>> Gratis OA (free online access) and Libre OA (free online access plus >>> various re-use rights) be color-coded (with a different shade for every >>> variety of CC license)! >>> Harnad, S., Brody, T., Vallieres, F., Carr, L., Hitchcock, S., Gingras, Y, >>> Oppenheim, C., Stamerjohanns, H., & Hilf, E. (2004) The Access/Impact >>> Problem and the Green and Gold Roads to Open Access. Serials Review 30. >>> Shorter version: The green and the gold roads to Open Access. Nature Web >>> Focus. >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> GOAL@eprints.org >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal Laurent Romary INRIA & HUB-IDSL laurent.rom...@inria.fr
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