On 2013-06-17, at 9:34 AM, Tim Brody <[email protected]> wrote:

>  RCUK guidance [in] section3.14 of:
> http://www.rcuk.ac.uk/documents/documents/RCUKOpenAccessPolicy.pdf
> 
> Is all about monitoring for gold *and green* (including embargoes)?
> 
> "measure the impact of Open Access across the landscape including use of
> both immediate publishing (‘Gold’) and the use of repositories(‘Green’),
> and"
> 
> "For articles which are not made immediately open access ... a statement
> of the length of the embargo period [will be required]"
> 
> I spent last Friday at a workshop of UK EPrints users that was all about
> how we're going to report open access compliance to RCUK.

Well it would be splendid if RCUK monitored Green as it monitors Gold!

What I meant was monitoring Green *compliance* (i.e., making sure
the papers are deposited), just as the money spent on Gold is being
monitored. 

I don't think a solemn statement of the intention to deposit some day --
especially since RCUK have announced that they will not be enforcing
embargo lengths for the indeterminate nonce -- is a compliance mechanism.

The remedy will come from HEFCE, if their proposed immediate-deposit
mandate is adopted, for eligibility for REF: It is a monitoring mechanism
that ensures date-stamped immediate-deposit that is needed.

Let us hope that is the compliance mechanism RCUK, in collaboration
with the funded institutions, will adopt.

SH

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