On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Robert Jacobs <rjac...@uk.swets.com> wrote:

> I find your message here a little confusing, as you seem to be railing
> against a number of different parties. The simple fact is that the RCUK,
> and increasingly other funding bodies, are channelling funds specifically
> to pay for the APCs under Gold Open Access via the institution, and most
> Universities in the UK who have this funding are channelling it via the
> library, not the individual authors. Each library is currently developing
> their own processes and systems to support the efficient management of
> these APC payments, as there is significant cost involved in managing any
> process developed on an individual organisation scale.
>
> The benefit of a shared service and the economies of scale which
> intermediaries can offer are significant, and in the real world we all have
> to live by the value we deliver. If we don’t deliver value, then we don’t
> have a role to play in this.
>
> You seem to have missed the fact that there is now, in the UK, funding in
> place to encourage the processing of many thousands of APCs, and this is
> hugely inefficient if done at an individual institution level, let alone at
> individual author level as you seem to suggest is the case.
>
> As Gold is the current model of choice for RCUK there is a real need to
> help streamline processes, to save money and to improve service. If
> companies like Swets can support this then that is not parasitic, it’s what
> drives best practice and scales efficiency. Our service has been developed
> independently of any philosophical arguments for or against gold/green open
> access publishing, and after much dialogue with UK university libraries.
>

No confusion:

A. Yes, I am "railing" against (i) Finch/RCUK, for its foolish policy of
wasting scarce research money on Gold OA instead of effectively mandating
cost-free Green OA, (ii) against institutions who unthinkingly treat Gold
OA fees as if they were a library matter (!), and (iii) against third party
businesses, eager to cash in on Finch/RCUK's folly and institutional
confusion.

B. The RCUK Gold policy is an ill-thought-out, incoherent,
counterproductive policy, for reasons that have by now been described many
times by many authors.

C. Consigning the process of (double) paying publishers for Gold OA -- over
and above already paying for subscriptions -- to a 3rd party "service"
would simply be a way of sweeping the defects of the Finch/RCUK policy
under the rug.

To repeat: It's authors who publish, and authors who pay to publish (if
they wish, or must). Author payment is not a subscription matter, not a
library matter, and not a library aggregator matter.

Stevan Harnad
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