> From: Joseph Esposito > > Harnad writes that "a minority [of publishers] want a one-year > embargo." I doubt that that is true. Most publishers are trying to > accommodate the needs and interests of funding agencies, society > members, librarians, and the general public. I doubt very much that > many publishers are happy with only a one-year embargo. Policies of > this kind represent difficult compromises.
I didn't say they liked a 1-year embargo. Perhaps in place of "want," which is ambiguous, I should have said ""a minority [of publishers] demand a one-year embargo." The majority of publishers do not demand any embargo at all. (I don't doubt that among those that do, some would prefer a longer one…) Stevan Harnad > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 8:13 AM, LIBLICENSE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: Stevan Harnad <[email protected]> >> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:34:28 -0400 >> >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 on Liblicense, LIBLICENSE Ari Belenkiy wrote: >> >>> First, by definition, the Green OA is "a deposit of PRE-peer-reviewed >>> article on author's website". >> >> Incorrect. By definition Green OA is immediate, permanent toll-free >> online access to the post-peer-reviewed "postprint", provided by the >> author (on any website, institutional or central). >> >>> The only way publishers can agree on this is for a back payment - this >>> appears to be made by >>> institutions and not by the authors (a version of the Gold OA). >> >> Nothing of the sort. The majority of journals endorse immediate, >> unembargoed Green OA. >> >> A minority want a 1-year embargo. >> >> The solution is to mandate immediate deposit of all articles; authors >> can then provide immediate Green OA for the majority, and >> Button-mediated "Almost OA" during the embargo for the embargoed >> minority. >> >> No payment for any of this. Publication is already paid for via >> subscriptions, for subscription journals. And Gold OA payments have >> nothing whatsoever to do with any of this. >> >>> Am I right? Then who in the institution will decide for which submission >>> to pay and for which not? >> >> You are wrong. You are conflating preprint and postprint, Green OA and >> Gold OA. I suggest doing a little background reading on basic concepts >> and developments in OA. There's not much, and you will understand it >> quickly once you read about it. But just going by the words in >> postings, and their free associations with what one thinks they might >> mean will not get one anywhere. You might start with the >> self-archiving FAQ. >> >> Stevan Harnad
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