Stevan, Yes we could have green with the current subscription models and repository infrastructure. But still some important players don't allow green (Wiley, Nature and ACS to mention a few)
But all I wanted to do, and was requested to do, to make a calculation to see what it would cost if our junior minister Sander Dekker would get what he wanted. Complete Gold OA for the Netherlands. It would cost us 43 instead of 34 million euro. Currently we are spending already 34 (subscriptions) plus 4 million (OA APC). So we are rapidly falling into a trap of paying twice http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/2014/01/30/paying-twice-or-paying-thrice-brienza/ Wouter From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Stevan Harnad Sent: woensdag 5 maart 2014 14:20 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Dutch Echoes of Finch On Mar 4, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Gerritsma, Wouter <wouter.gerrit...@wur.nl<mailto:wouter.gerrit...@wur.nl>> wrote: For two working groups of the Dutch University libraries I was asked to make a calculation for the costs of a 100% Gold open access model. It will only costs 10.5 million euro extra was my conclusion. Blogged at http://wowter.net/2014/03/05/costs-going-gold-netherlands/ Unless I have misunderstand, this "10.5 million euro extra" for Dutch University Libraries means 10.5 million euro extra over and above what Dutch University Libraries are paying for subscriptions. In other words, for a surcharge of 10.5 million dollars Dutch University libraries can purchase gold OA for Dutch research output (assuming that suitable gold OA journals exist for all Dutch research output, and that all Dutch researchers are willing to publish in them). But at the same time Dutch University libraries also have to continue to pay to subscribe to the research input from all other universities and research institutions worldwide, as long as they publish in subscription-based journals rather than gold OA journals (or are unwilling or unable to pay for gold OA). This pre-emptive double-payment for gold OA I have come to call "Fool's Gold." What is being left out of this calculation, of course, is that the Netherlands, like all countries, can have OA at no extra cost by mandating green OA self-archiving of all of its research output in Dutch universities' institutional repositories. In other words, this sounds like the Dutch echo of the UK Finch recommendations to pay fextra for gold OA instead of just mandating green OA. This recommendation issues, not coincidentally, from the two countries with the heaviest concentration of the journal publishing industry, and hence journal publishing industry lobbyists, as repeatedly voiced by Sander Dekker, Netherlands State Secretary for the Ministry of Education, Culture and Science: http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1073-.html All the published objections to the Finch recommendations would apply to Dekker's Dutch recommendations if they were ever to become a policy (mandate). Fortunately they are not mandatory and can and should be ignored in favor or mmandating green OA, as the European Commission has done. The UK mandate will also (it is to be hopes) shortly shored with an immediate-deposit requirement from HEFCE. http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/349893/ To understand why green OA needs to be mandated first, and how it will first provide OA, and then make subscriptions unsustainable, inducing publishers to cut costs and convert to Fair Gold OA at an affordable, sustanainable price by offloading all archiving and access provision onto the worldwide network of mandatory green OA institutional repositories, see: Harnad, S. (2010) No-Fault Peer Review Charges: The Price of Selectivity Need Not Be Access Denied or Delayed. D-Lib Magazine 16 (7/8). http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/21348/ Houghton, J. & Swan, A. (2013) Planting the Green Seeds for a Golden Harvest: Comments and Clarifications on "Going for Gold". D-Lib Magazine 19 (1/2). http://www.dlib.org/dlib/january13/houghton/01houghton.html
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