Just to be silly: US$ 6000 for the high end "western" APC is more than the amount of one month salary of a senior scientist here in France. :-(
Serge Envoyé d'un téléphone portable, désolé pour le caractère inélégant... > Le 11 avr. 2015 à 19:04, "Bo-Christer Björk" <[email protected]> a > écrit : > > Hi all, > > The 1500 USD charged by Hindawi for the journal in question is by global > standards fairly reasonable, given the impact factor level of the > journal. The problem is that uniform APCs for all countries is probably > unsustainable in the long run. For this reason many gold OA journals > give Waivers for authors from developing countries. In this particular > case authors from around 60 countries, mainly from Africa and Asia and > curiously also Ukraine can get waivers. Egypt alas is not on the > relevant World Bank list. > > The leading publishers do not charge the same amounts for big deal > subscription licenses in different countries, but take into account the > potential customers ability to pay (its a bit like airline ticketing). > Likewise I would hope that if we convert to a dominating APC funded gold > OA solution, then OA publishers will develop more tieried APC schemes > than the current binominal full APC- waiver one. There are already some > examples of policies with at least three levels. > > Bo-Christer Björk > > >> On 4/11/15 5:58 PM, Heather Morrison wrote: >> David, Jan & Peter: thank you for your comments. I agree with some of what >> you say, would like to point to where we said basically the same things in >> the original post. and have some comments to add: >> >> Agreed - Hindawi has a deserved reputation as a leader in scholarly >> publishing, and in particular for commitment to quality. I also acknowledge >> that Egyptian researchers can benefit by reading the OA works of others. >> Following are words to this effect from the original blogpost: >> >> Details, first paragraph: "Hindawi is an open access commercial publishing >> success story and an Egyptian business success story. Hindawi Publishing >> Corporation was founded by Ahmed Hindawi who, in an interview with Richard >> Poynder conducted in September 2012, confirmed a revenue of millions of >> dollars from APCs alone – a $3.3 net profit on $12 million in revenue, a 28% >> profit rate (Poynder, 2012). Hindawi is highly respected in open access >> publishing circles, and was an early leader in establishing the Open Access >> Scholarly Publishers’ Association (OASPA), an organization that takes >> quality in publishing seriously". Towards the end: "Egyptian researchers can >> read open access works of others". >> http://sustainingknowledgecommons.org/2015/04/10/who-is-served-by-for-profit-gold-open-access-publishing-a-case-study-of-hindawi-and-egypt/ >> >> David Prosser said: "I know of no country where APCs are mainly paid from >> academic salaries. In the same way that centrifuges, reagents, etc., etc. >> tend not to be paid for from salaries. They are mainly paid from research >> grants and so the comparison to salaries strikes me as meaningless". >> >> Comment: one way to think of this is that there are larger pools of funds >> from which both academic salaries and monies for other expenses (including >> APCs, subscription payments, reagents) are drawn. I argue that providing >> funds for research per se is a necessary precondition to dissemination of >> research results. I further argue that research funders working in the >> developing world will be more effective if they prioritize funding for >> academic salaries, student support, and other direct supports for actually >> doing the research, rather than paying APCs. A subsidy of two APCs for >> Hindawi's Disease Markers - or a single APC of $3,000 charged by some other >> publishers - would pay a year's salary for a lecturer position in Egypt. >> >> Of course I am Canadian, have never been to Egypt, and do not speak Arabic. >> I am merely commenting on the impact of a model that I am viewing from a >> distance. To understand what is best for Egypt and her researchers requires >> in-depth knowledge of the country, consultation with and ideally leadership >> by Egyptian researchers themselves. >> >> best, >> >> Heather Morrison >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
