I agree with Marc's comments but would add that authors need to know that "use" 
includes commercial use (this includes for-sale and for-profit re-use), and 
remix. 

Re-use doesn't mean the kind of re-uses we like, it just means re-use. It might 
mean a serious scholar re-using part of our work in their own highly 
prestigious work - or it could mean a for-profit company taking a picture of a 
research subject and using it in an ad. That's another form of commercial 
re-use and re-mix.

Working towards understanding what we're actually talking about is a really 
good direction IMHO.

best,

Heather

> On May 21, 2015, at 1:34 PM, "Couture Marc" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Although I don't share Heather's fears as to the dangers of CC BY in 
> scientific publishing, I agree that authors should be able to make an 
> informed choice when they are asked to accept it as a publication condition.
> 
> The verb "share" certainly doesn't convey the full scope of the rights 
> granted users by the CC BY licence. The correct verb would be "use", and it 
> should be stated that it includes, among others, distributing copies, 
> republishing, and adapting (translating, for instance).
> 
> By the way, one may wonder if the authors of this "proposed policy" fully 
> understand the meaning of the CC BY licence. For instance, the second part is 
> completely irrelevant: anyone who obtains a work with a CC BY licence can 
> republish it with no need of a "separate, additional contractual arrangement" 
> with the copyright owner (unless one doesn't want to be bound by the 
> attribution condition).
> 
> Marc Couture
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de 
> Heather Morrison
> Envoyé : 21 mai 2015 11:10
> À : Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Objet : [GOAL] CC-BY journal draft policy: possibly of interest
> 
> The Journal of Orthopaedic Case Reports has posted a Proposed Creative 
> Commons notice which may be useful for discussion purposes.
> 
> My perspective is that it is helpful to have this explanatory information, 
> good to see clarification of author copyright retention and active 
> encouragement for authors to re-use their own works. However, the explanation 
> of what CC-BY does is not accurate as it fails to explain that the license 
> grants blanket commercial and re-use rights to anyone downstream. How would 
> an author know that they could be opening up their work (or third party work) 
> to the kind of commercial exploitation we saw in the Chang vs. Virgin Mobile 
> case? (http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.ca/2014/02/chang-vs-virgin-mobile.html)
> 
> The journal links to the CC-BY deed, but not to the quick explanation for 
> authors or the legal code. Whether CC-BY is a good idea for open access is a 
> separate question; my argument is that it is not 
> http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.ca/2012/10/critique-of-cc-by-series.html
> 
> 
> Proposed Policy for Journal of Orthopaedic Case Reports
> from:
> http://jocr.co.in/index.php?journal=jocr&page=about&op=submissions#authorGuidelines
> 
> 
> 
> Authors who publish with this journal agree to the following terms:
> 
>    . Authors retain copyright and grant the journal right of first 
> publication with the work simultaneously licensed under a Creative Commons 
> Attribution License that allows others to share the work with an 
> acknowledgement of the work's authorship and initial publication in this 
> journal.
> 
>    . Authors are able to enter into separate, additional contractual 
> arrangements for the non-exclusive distribution of the journal's published 
> version of the work (e.g., post it to an institutional repository or publish 
> it in a book), with an acknowledgement of its initial publication in this 
> journal.
> 
>    . Authors are permitted and encouraged to post their work online (e.g., in 
> institutional repositories or on their website) prior to and during the 
> submission process, as it can lead to productive exchanges, as well as 
> earlier and greater citation of published work (See The Effect of Open 
> Access).
> 
> I am noting some of the copyright-related issues spotted during the 2015 OA 
> APC data gathering process, including instances of OA APC charging journals 
> with copyright transfer agreements. There are journals with CC-BY licenses 
> requiring full copyright transfer and limiting author rights. Details here: 
> http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.ca/2015/05/open-access-publishing-current-issues.html
> 
> best,
> 
> --
> Dr. Heather Morrison
> Assistant Professor
> École des sciences de l'information / School of Information Studies 
> University of Ottawa http://www.sis.uottawa.ca/faculty/hmorrison.html
> Sustaining the Knowledge Commons http://sustainingknowledgecommons.org/
> [email protected]
> 
> 
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