Just to add that I too agree completely with Chris and Jan. Éric (perhaps out of legal or commercial caution) responded to Beall in a polite deadpan style, but Beall's posting cannot be described as anything less that outrageous. A tendentious public query about undeclared interests coupled with a gratuitous insinuation of racism.
Stevan On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Jan Velterop <[email protected]> wrote: > All I want to say is that I agree wholeheartedly with Chris. He definitely > isn't the only one to be outraged. > > Johannes (Jan) J M Velterop > > Sent from Jan Velterop's iPhone. Please excuse for brevity and typos. > > On 3 Oct 2015, at 11:32, Chris Zielinski <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have no personal involvement in this issue (other than being aghast when > SciELO appeared on the List of Predatory Journals recently - it now seems > to have been removed, after multiple protests) and don't know any of the > participants personally, but I can't be the only one who finds this post > from Beall outrageous, with its insinuations that Archambault has a > financial motive for his post, and may be racist. Archambault's reply is > far, far too polite! > > Chris > > Chris Zielinski > [email protected] > Blogs: http://ziggytheblue.wordpress.com and > http://ziggytheblue.tumblr.com > Research publications: http://www.researchgate.net > > On 2 October 2015 at 15:55, Beall, Jeffrey <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Eric: >> >> >> >> I have two questions. >> >> >> >> 1. For the record, does your for-profit business or do you personally >> have any business relationship with any of the publishers or journals on my >> lists? If so, which ones? >> >> >> >> 2. In your email you refer to a recently-published article, and you name >> and discuss the second author, but you fail to mention or credit the lead >> and corresponding author, Cenyu Shen. Was this because of his race? >> >> >> >> Jeffrey Beall >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Éric Archambault >> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2015 7:38 AM >> *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [GOAL] Need for a new beginning >> >> >> >> Dear list members: >> >> What started as a one-man, useful list that identified “Potential, >> possible, or probable predatory scholarly open-access publishers”, which >> Jeffrey himself further qualifies as a “list of questionable, scholarly >> open-access publishers”, has now overshot its usefulness. We need a new >> beginning. >> >> If these publishers are questionable, let’s find a mechanism to question >> them, and let’s, at the very least, document their answers. Currently, this >> list of >> >> Release Date: 10/01/15 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> >> > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > >
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