Thank you, Scott, DOAJ, OASPA and LIBER!! I think this is much more appropriate than either black or white lists. In the past I have pointed people to Beall's list but I will now point to think check submit instead, and encourage others to do the same.
May I suggest one addition? Consult with your colleagues (or supervisor if you are a student). To illustrate why this is helpful: when a call for papers comes from colleagues we know and trust, eg our professor forwards the call to a departmental list, this is a good indication that this is likely a journal people they know and trust are involved with. A question about submitting to such a journal is likely to be well received and may yield additional help about suitability of one's work and what a scholar can do to increase chances of acceptance. best, Heather Morrison On Oct 6, 2015, at 2:04 AM, "Scott Abbott" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, apologies if this resource has already been shared on this list but I have been following bits of your thread and thought this resource by DOAJ, OASPA, LIBER etc. was relevant. http://thinkchecksubmit.org/ <image001.png> Many thanks and regards, Scott Scott Abbott | UTS eScholarship & UTS ePRESS | UTS:LIBRARY | University of Technology Sydney | Tel +61 2 9514 3681 | Fax +61 2 9514 3687 | E mailto: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | http://epress.lib.uts.edu.au/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dana Roth Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 6:15 AM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Beall's list: crowdsource scholarly critique? Heather: I fail to see that focusing on GOLD OA publishers is a distraction. Jeffrey Beall is providing a unique service that should not be denigrated. If "His own work could benefit from the same critical lens" ... I don't think he would object ... who is willing to step up? Dana L. Roth Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32 1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125 626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://library.caltech.edu/collections/chemistry.htm ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Heather Morrison [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 8:23 AM To: Global Open Access List Subject: [GOAL] Beall's list: crowdsource scholarly critique? Assuming that I am not alone in my concern about over-reliance on Beall's list, perhaps we can find a solution that targets this specific problem without more work than is really necessary? One thought for a remedy: could we find a way to crowdsource objective, dispassionate scholarly critique of this list and the assumptions people make about it? For example, the focus on OA publishers is a distraction from the fact that problematic practices can and do happen with all types of publishers. This is a serious limitation to Beall's list, which should be highlighted to the reader. As a peer reviewer or editor, I would insist that Beall do this before publishing his work, if this list were submitted to me for review. A similar type of issue is an assumption that Beall categorizes all publishers on the list as predatory. Even Beall's title should make it clear that the range is potential, probable of actual predatory publishers. This is a system of assumption of guilt that does fit with expectations of justice in Canada or the US. Anyone is a potential criminal or predatory if a publisher; it is not possible to prove otherwise. If we have evidence that Beall refuses to remove a publisher from the list when provided with proof that the publisher is legit, let's post the proof or at least provide a place where people can post. This might be helpful to scholars who have decided to ignore Beall in publishing choices for valid reasons. Scholarly critique, including critique of OA practices, is necessary to advance our knowledge. Beall has done some good work in exposing poor practices. His own work could benefit from the same critical lens. just a thought. 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