Mr Beall, as usual, picks his words as hostile as possible to address
this OA community. Calling Jean-Claude Guedon a book banner is like
calling Nelson Mandela a criminal. It is just not true and it tries
to ride the waves of a very disturbing discussion. I am asking him to
show some respect or to leave this email list. And he can call me a
list banner if he wants.
On 13 November 2015 at 09:37, Stevan Harnad <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
"Remove Access" would of course be absurd, and completely
contrary to the spirit of OA (but that's not what J-CG meant).
"Cease to Pay for Access," on the other hand, is a call for a
perfectly valid and longstanding judgment-call by library serial
acquisitions committees, in consultation with their user
community, as to how they spend their serials budget.
The valuable historical service Jeffery Beall is providing by
warning about scam Gold OA journals (though it would be even more
useful if extended to all journals, whether OA or toll-access) is
compromised by his inexplicable hostility to OA itself and his
equally inexplicable fealty to subscription publishers and their
M.O.
But calling an Open Access advocate the equivalent of a
book-banner takes the (vegan) cake...
SH
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Beall, Jeffrey
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
I think that Guedon's advice to "Remove access to /Lingua/
going forward" is the moral equivalent of a book banning.
There's no moral difference between saying "Remove access to
/Lingua/" and saying "Remove the book /Heather Has Two Mommies/."
I understand that all book banners (and journal banners)
think they are doing the right thing and helping society.
I think it is shameful for anyone, especially a librarian, to
call for the removal of content from a library.
Guedon is the modern-day equivalent of a book banner. He is
pressuring libraries to ban serials, the same, morally, as
banning books.
Jeffrey Beall
University of Colorado Denver
*From:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Richard Poynder
*Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:59 PM
*To:* 'Global Open Access List' <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* [GOAL] Inside Higher Ed: All six editors and all
31 editorial board members of Lingua resign over Elsevier
*I am posting this message on behalf of Jean-Claude Guédon:*
The article below (thanks to Colin Steele) is an example of a
courageous move that must be supported by the libraries.
With regard to the /Lingua/ (now /Glossa/) editorial board,
libraries could, for example,
1. Remove access to/Lingua/ going forward (keep access to
archive up to December 31st, 2015) if caught in a Big Deal;
remove /Lingua/ from subscriptions, starting in 2016, if not
in a Big Deal
2. Support /Glossa/ (the new journal) financially,
3. Promote /Glossa/ widely. ERIH is already classifying the
new journal at the level of its current status by arguing
that the quality of a journal is linked to the editors and
editorial board, and not to the publisher.
Researchers in linguistics, of course, should boycott
Elsevier's /Lingua/ from now on.
This event also demonstrates the importance for Learned and
scientific societies not to sell the title of their journals
to publishers. So long as we foolishly evaluate research
according to the place where it is published (i.e. a journal
title), publishers will hold a strong trump card.
Finally, this event displays the incredible behaviour of the
multinational, commercial, publishers with particular
clarity. These are not the friends of the scientific
communication system we need.
>>
Extract from /Inside Higher Ed/ article:
“All six editors and all 31 editorial board members of
/Lingua/, one of the top journals in linguistics, last week
resigned to protest Elsevier's policies on pricing and its
refusal to convert the journal to an open-access publication
that would be free online. As soon as January, when the
departing editors' noncompete contracts expire, they plan to
start a new open-access journal to be called /Glossa/.”
The article can be read in full here:
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/11/02/editors-and-editorial-board-quit-top-linguistics-journal-protest-subscription-fees
For a list of some of the other coverage of this issue see
here: http://kaivonfintel.org/2015/11/05/lingua-roundup/
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