1. HEFCE requires immediate deposit (not immediate OA). so it is not in conflict with *Nature's* & *Science's* PR practices. (N has a 6-month embargo <http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?jtitle=nature&issn=0028-0836&zetocpub=Nature+Publishing+Group&romeopub=Nature+Publishing+Group&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en&version=&source=journal&sourceid=4008> on OA; S has none <http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?jtitle=science&issn=0036-8075&zetocpub=American+Association+for+the+Advancement+of+Science&romeopub=American+Association+for+the+Advancement+of+Science&fIDnum=|&mode=simple&la=en&version=&source=journal&sourceid=11114> .)
2. In any case, the 3-month grace-period would have been plenty of time for N & S to do their PR even if the HEFCE rule had been immediate OA (which it is not). 3. This "Ingelfinger Rule <http://cogprints.org/1703/>" (designed to enhance paid circulation, not to enhance access) is a rule better honored in the breach: Very, very little good scholarship or science is done via PR rather than substance, especially in the online era. SH On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Clement-Stoneham Geraldine < [email protected]> wrote: > Danny, > > > > Some journals like to control the way information is being published about > new papers, and therefore impose a strict press embargo period (another > embargo, nothing to do with green OA embargo period). This sometime > referred to as the “Ingelfinger rule” ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingelfinger_rule). > > > > All of this is well orchestrated, with a press pack made available so that > coverage is reflecting accurately the research, and is advertised to > authors as the added value offered by the publishers if they chose to > submit their paper to them. This explains why you often see papers > published in Nature, or Science, all making the headlines of daily press on > the same day. The downside of course is that they do act as “gagging > orders”, which can make it tricky for researchers to talk about their > research once the paper has been accepted, but not yet published (which can > go for weeks/months). > > > > One of the issues with the HEFCE requirement to add article metadata to a > repository at the acceptance stage, was that this could inadvertently > breach such publishers’ embargo by release some (even if not much) > information about the paper ahead of time. I believe this is what your > researcher is concerned about. I am not sure that at this stage there is a > way around it, but it would deserve a wider conversation. Less traditional > journals such as eLife have deliberately done away with such embargo, and > indeed encourage authors to discuss their research as soon as they wish, > which seems to be better aligned with “open science” principles. > > > > You’ll find more details for the journal you named here > > > > http://www.nature.com/authors/policies/embargo.html > > http://www.nejm.org/page/author-center/embargo > > http://www.cell.com/cell/authors#prepub > > > > and eLife’s policy > > http://elifesciences.org/elife-news/authors-the-media-and-elife > > > > Best wishes > > Geraldine > > > > > > *Geraldine Clement-Stoneham* > > Knowledge and Information Manager > > Medical Research Council > > Tel: +44 (0) 207 395 2272 > > Mobile: +44 79 00 136 319 > > [email protected] > > > > > > This email may have a protective marking, for an explanation please see > http://www.mrc.ac.uk/About/Informationandstandards/Documentmarking/index.htm > > We use an electronic filing system. Please send electronic versions of > documents, unless paper is specifically requested. > _____________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > >
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