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[Goanet] 29 Apr: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
Re: [Goanet] What exactly did the PM say at Campal?
[Goanet] re: Sunila's "Fred Noronha and Co" comment
Re: [Goanet] reply to Jose
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:37:20 +0530
From: "Joel D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] 29 Apr: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
29 APRIL 2002
GCCI HAILS EXTENSION OF TAX HOLIDAY: The Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industry
has hailed the Union Finance Minister, Mr Yeshwant Singh, for extending the
income-tax holiday for Goa till March 2004, which had earlier expired on
March 30. (NT)
CM TAKES A DIG AT 'PSEUDO-SECULARISTS': In a bid to counter the tirade
against the BJP over Gujarat violence, the Chief Minister, Mr Manohar
Parrikar, yesterday said that those who are shouting against the BJP were
responsible for communal violence. He was speaking at a day-long Kannada
Sahitya Sammelan at the Kala Academy. Noted theatre personality BP Karanth,
presided over the function. (NT)
'BJP HAS PUT FARMERS IN TROUBLE', RANE: Speaker of the Legislative Assembly,
Pratapsing Rane, said that an Andhra Pradesh like situation may prevail in
the State where farmers have to choose to commit suicide, due to price of
agriculture products going down. Rane blamed the BJP governments both at the
Centre and State for putting the farmers in trouble. (H)
CSI-GOACOM AWARD GOES TO ROSARY HIGH SCHOOL: The annual CSI-Goacom Award of
Rs.20,000 for schools implementing IT most effectively during the academic
year 2001-2002, was awarded to Rosary High School (Red), Miramar, on 20th
April. The award was presented by Mr Jerry Menezes, Director of Goacom Insys,
during the annual gathering of the school.
PWD GETS AWARD: India has conferred an award on PWD, Government of Goa, for
outstanding performance in integrated low cost sanitation in the year 2001-02
during their 32rd annual day celebrations held in New Delhi on 26 April. (GT)
POLL-RELATED SOFTWARE: Drawing inspiration from news analysis conducted by
the electronic media, the Election Commission of India is also working on an
election related software package to analyse election related data for the
forthcoming elections in Goa. (H)
ELECTION MEDIA CENTRE OPENED: Media centre has been set up at the office of
the Chief Electoral Office at Altinho, Panaji. It is manned by UT Ramnathkar
and John Aguiar, Media Officials of the Department of Information and
Publicity. Tel: 225448.
FAKE GOLD COINS: Three persons including a woman sold fake gold coins to a
lady and cheated her of Rs.85,000 at Borda in Margao, three months ago. When
the lady approached a goldsmith, the coins turned out fake on verification.
(NT)
AWARENESS PROGRAMME SKITS: The office of the chief electoral officer has
arranged skit programme as a part of voters public awareness campaign on
electors' photo identity cards in various talukas of the State. (H)
'BOMBAY VIKINGS' FAIL TO TURN UP: The Panaji police have registered a case
against the organizers of the Stars in Summer in Concert, held at Campal
parade grounds on Saturday, for cheating the people by failing to present
'Bombay Vikings' Live in concert. The show was organised by Multidimensions
and the tickets were sold at Rs.1000, Rs.500, Rs.200 and Rs.100. (GT)
WELFACE SCHEMES FOR EX-SERICEMEN: The State government has approved various
welfare schemes for the ex-servicemen and their dependents. The benefits
include medical reimbursement for serious diseases, pocket money for
cancer/TB/leprosy patients, reimbursement of travel and incidental expenses,
enhancement of scholarship to the wards of ex-servicemen/widows,
reimbursement course fees at recognised institutes. (H)
SS CADRES TO CAMPAIGN IN GOA: The Shiv Sena has receive a shot in the arm as
a large number of Goans working in Mumbai have agreed to come to their
villages to campaign for their candidates during Assembly elections. (GT)
RANE AND PARRIKAR: "There has been a falling-out finally between the Chief
Minister Manohar Parrikar and the Speaker Pratapsing Rane. And the two are
out to prove the maxim that when close friends fallout they often turn out to
be bitter enemies. Their friendship lasted till the time it suited both
parties: (Edit in Herald)
KANNADA SCHOOLS IN GOA: The Goa Kannada Samaj, which organised a Kannada
literature and cultural programme in Panjim yesterday, urged the Chief
Minister to open Kannada medium schools and to set up a Kannada Academy for
the benefit of Kannadigas residing in Goa. The demand for the construction of
a Kannada Bhavan was also raised at the function. (GT)
FALSE PROPAGANDA: "Our ancestors knew no other oil except coconut oil and
they lived for eighty years and above and now with this oil we use we hear
and see nothing but diabetics, arthritis, obesity, hyper-tension and more
heart attacks. The same thing was done when it came to common salt. They said
the use of iodised salt was a must. This play was only to keep their big
factories running." (Joliot Pinto, Assolna, In Response-NT)
TELECOM CABLES VANISH: Forty metres of telephone cables were stolen by some
unknown persons while they were kept in the open at Mestavaddo, Curti, on
Saturday. The cost of the stolen cables is estimated at Rs.8000. (GT)
ANJUNA FETE: The well-attended, two-day fete in the compound St Michael's
church in Anjuna ended yesterday with the scintillating music of band
'Alcatraz'. Earlier there were other items like exciting fire events by limbo
dancer Kanan and dance competitions, in which the Saligao group bagged the
first prize, with Tembi (Anjuna) taking the second. On the previous day,
there was a singing competition, Konkani entertainment by Young Chico and his
group, and the programme was rounded up by Goa's top band 'Lynx'. People
flocked at the several stalls with games (including computer ones by NIIT),
and those serving delicious snacks, icecream, soft drinks, and homemade
san'nam-sorpotel, chourico-pao, shawarma, etc. (GoaNOW)
S P O R T S
GOA IN SEMI-FINALS: Last year's finalists Goa and hosts Karnataka played to a
goalless draw and advanced into the semi-finals from group II in the Under-21
National Football championship in Mandya. (GT)
PANJIM GYMKHANA LIFT BANDODKAR TROPHY: Panjim Gymkhana shocked fancied
Chowgule SC by 19 runs to win the Bandodkar Trophy Cricket tournament
organised by Panjim Gymkhana and played at Gymkhana grounds, Campal. (GT)
UMAKANT TO LEAD: Umakant Gaude of Navdurga Vidhyalaya, Marcaim, will lead the
Goa sub-junior boys team in the 12th sub-junior national baseball
championship to be held in Goa from May 3 to 8. (NT)
D E A T H S
28 Apr: Siolim: HERMINIA LIBERATA PAULINA RANGEL, relict of late Joseph
Paul.
28 Apr: Nuvem: Maria Henriqueta LGC da Gama Furtado, relict of Gloria,
mother of Estelita Agnelo/Monica, Luvelino, Emmanuel/Cynthia.
27 Apr: Ucassaim: CONSTANCIO (POLAS) FERNANDES, husband of Valentine,
father of Irene/Joe, Joseph/Molly.
28 Apr: Vasco da Gama: CARMELINA SILVEIRA, wife of Francis, mother of
Flaviano, Cecilia/Pascoal, Caterina/Rony.
28 Apr: Divar: LUIZA BORGES FERREIRA E PIMENTA, relict of late Francisco
Xavier, mother of Flaviano/Etcilia, Francisca/late Roque.
G O A W E A T H E R
Min Temp : 29.6 deg C (85.3 deg F)
Max Temp: 34.8 deg C; Relative Humidity: 70% (yesterday-Panjim)
Weather: Hot and cloudy morning.
Courtesy: H=Herald, NT=The Navhind Times, GT=Gomantak Times
Daily Goacom News Clippings also at: http://www.goacom.com/news
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:18:10 +0400
From: "Sunila Muzawar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] What exactly did the PM say at Campal?
Thanks for sending this Fred.
Now that I have read the PM's speech in English (I had heard the audio in
Hindi before on one of the internet sites)I cannot understand why there was
such a furore about it in the first place. In fact, both the times (i.e.
when I heard it in audio and when I read the speech in English) I tried to
find the controversial passages but couldn't find any. If anyone of you can
find a single statement in the PM's speech which is provocative and untrue
please let me know. At least it will give me an insight into somebody else's
way of thinking.
In fact, since my Hindi is not too good :-) when I first heard it on audio I
did think that the part about Muslims could be construed as provocative to
some. But after reading it in English I have actually changed my mind about
that too.
I would think some of the things George Bush said and says are far more
provocative but nobody made a noise about them. I tell you our media is fast
turning into a bunch of liars. Shame on them for stoking flames about
nothing at a time when the country is facing such severe and nasty communal
turbulence !
Cheers,
Sunila
>From: Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Goanet] What exactly did the PM say at Campal?
>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:46:58 +0530 (IST)
>
>PRIME MINISTER Atal Behari Vajpayee's speech at Campal, Goa, raked up a
>row across India and beyond... What exactly did he say, while in Goa for a
>party meet?
>Read the English text of his speech at
>http://www.freenewsgoa.net * Check out this small, news-based site.
>"It costs to tell the truth...." -Frederick Noronha.
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 04:39:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Goan Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] re: Sunila's "Fred Noronha and Co" comment
Sunila Muzawar wrote:
[I have no problem with discussing these of course.
The problem I believe is that this forum completely
ignores the otherside.... i.e.crimes committed against
the majority in India. And due to this imbalance a
biased view is perpetrated to the members of this
forum.]
JC's response:
Perpetrated By whom Sunila?
Is it possible that
1. The vast majority of members are silent
2. The views expressed reflect what is presently going
on
3. If there is something going on, which you know of,
....you would have let us all know.
Sunila:[Let's hope Fred Noronha and Co. will now give
us more balanced reporting and news and the rest of us
can discuss it at length.]
JC's response:
The last paragraph from Sunila suggests (I stand
corrected if I am wrong) that 'Fred Noronha and Co'
are NOT providing fair reporting. (Don't know what
"more balanced" means.......like..more better, I
suppose)
In any event...I disagree.
Joel in his Goa News mostly reposts what summaries of
what the Goa Newspapers say while "Fred Noronha and
Co" are, in my opinion, pretty objective.
I wonder what makes the reporting from 'Fred Noronha
and Co' unbalanced. Perhaps, Sunila will care to
advise us.
And let us just cut the mustard and say Who are the
"majority community" . Hindus? Atheists, Harijans,
Dalits?...
jc for TGF
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:12:14 +0400
From: "Sunila Muzawar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] reply to Jose
>From: The Goan Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Goanet] re: Sunila's "Fred Noronha and Co" comment
>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 04:39:25 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Sunila Muzawar wrote:
>
>[I have no problem with discussing these of course.
>The problem I believe is that this forum completely
>ignores the otherside.... i.e.crimes committed against
>the majority in India. And due to this imbalance a
>biased view is perpetrated to the members of this
>forum.]
>
>
>JC's response:
>
>Perpetrated By whom Sunila?
By lopsided reporting, lopsided arguments, ignorance of many incidents.
>Is it possible that
>1. The vast majority of members are silent
Yes, of course.
>2. The views expressed reflect what is presently going
>on
On some counts, yes. But not all counts. That is where the imbalance comes
about.
>3. If there is something going on, which you know of,
>....you would have let us all know.
Of course not ! After all it is not my job to let you know all that is going
on in this world and India in particular. I do send in a few messages when I
can find the time to do so like the last few days ;-) but generally I hardly
bother at times. But if you would like to take on this job, please go ahead.
You have my blessings ;-)
>Sunila:[Let's hope Fred Noronha and Co. will now give
>us more balanced reporting and news and the rest of us
>can discuss it at length.]
>JC's response:
>The last paragraph from Sunila suggests (I stand
>corrected if I am wrong) that 'Fred Noronha and Co'
>are NOT providing fair reporting. (Don't know what
>"more balanced" means.......like..more better, I
>suppose)
When I say the reporting needs to be more balanced I mean exactly that.
Let's not get into the crab mentality here. I am talking with a focus on
issues and not people. Fred Noronha was mentioned because he is our main
news reporter on this forum. I have no personal axes to grind with Fred. I
have met him and found him to be a nice quiet unassuming chap. And knowing
him, he will actually view my message with an open mind and possibly work
towards giving more balanced news reports.
>In any event...I disagree.
>
>Joel in his Goa News mostly reposts what summaries of
>what the Goa Newspapers say while "Fred Noronha and
>Co" are, in my opinion, pretty objective.
I accept your opinion. However I disagree.
>I wonder what makes the reporting from 'Fred Noronha
>and Co' unbalanced. Perhaps, Sunila will care to
>advise us.
If reporting (and by reporting I mean news and views here) was more balanced
we would have heard of Godhra before the revenge on Muslims took place. We
would have heard of the hundreds and thousands and hundreds of thousands of
Hindus being killed in Kashmir EVERY DAY in the name of religion. We would
have heard of the killings in the North East which force conversions and
hatred which occur EVERY DAY. We would have heard of the numerous deaths on
the caste issues in Bihar and UP which occur EVERYDAY! And we would have
heard more about the findings on the anti-Sikh riots which occurred a long
time ago. And we would have heard more about the elimination of Kashmiri
Buddists in the name of ethnic cleansing which occur EVERY DAY. And we would
have heard more about the 0.8 million Kashmiri Pandits who have been
displaced from their homes and who live in pitiable conditions EVERY DAY for
for the last ten years. And we would have heard about the Naxal bombings and
killings in Bihar and Andhra Pradesh for the last few years which occur
EVERY OTHER DAY. And we would have heard of the recent bombing in Punjab.
And etc.
Instead we heard a lot about the Christian missionary Staines...but not a
word about the one of the harshest punishments in the world meted out to a
minor aged 14 years for involvement in the crime when he was a couple of
years younger at least. A lot about sporadic incidents on Christians and the
church bombings. However, when it was finally discovered that the church
bombers were hired by the Pakistani ISI, silence reigned in this forum for
sometime until I sent in the news article. We heard and are hearing a lot
about the Muslims killed in Gujarat but zilch about the Hindus killed in
Godhra which triggered these riots in the first place. And of course we hear
a lot of rubbish which comes out from the likes of the VHP etc. But do not
hear a word about what the Imam of Jama Masjid said about the disintegration
of our nation. Need I say more ?
>And let us just cut the mustard and say Who are the
>"majority community" . Hindus? Atheists, Harijans,
>Dalits?...
Oh fine with me. I don't like mustard either. I am talking about the
non-Brahmin Hindu community which includes but is not limited to Harijans,
Dalits and Atheists.
Now let me repeat I have NO problem with reporting about atrocities on
minorities. In fact, I think that such reporting is most important in a
democracy. Besides I am interested in all news. But when the reporting is
ONLY limited to that it gives a lopsided view of my beautiful country, and I
don't like it. Besides it is untrue that only minorities are hurt in my
country. The majority community is the biggest sufferer and India is the
only country in the world where it's majority is trampled upon, exploited
and killed without anyone batting an eyelid. Let us also recognise that.
I do realise that this forum has a major lot of Christian voices, a single
Muslim voice and a couple of Hindu voices. I don't count myself in any of
these, of course, because although born a Hindu I married a Muslim and I
never did and never will believe in any religion and would not like to limit
myself to a particular community. And I also realise that most of the news
and views reported on this forum cater to the majority of the voices heard.
However, I still believe that lop sided reporting is sending an incorrect
view to the members of this forum about my country.
I would like more balanced reporting to allow more balanced views. After all
riots and communal violence occur due to hatred propagated via half truths
and untruths. Do you not agree ?
Cheers,
Sunila
P.S. I will rely on you to take my views with a balanced mind and not try to
shred it to start a wrangling match. ;-)
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