Marlon,

>It is very good to hear from you albeit under your phony alias. Would 
>you by any chance happen to be related to an Ashok Chodnakar who 
>apparently sabotaged Gaspar Almedia's computer on a number of 
>ocassions?

You obviously got your head screwed on wrong ! I vaguely remember the Chodankar 
incidence. I believe your �detectives� had identified Mr AC. to be posting from the 
gulf from another netters computer. From the IP right? Well, a quick look at my IP 
would have put my location on the clear on the other side of the globe.

So to answer you, NO, I�m not in any way related to the people and incidents you are 
alluding to. And if you don�t believe me, its really NOT MY problem.

I�ve been on this mailing list for an extremely long time. The only problem is that I 
hadn�t subscribed via goacom�s majordomo and this statement provides me a way to 
dovetail into my second point.

>Anyway, to answer your question: No, goanet is not violating >yahoogroups policies. 
>For one thing, the mailing list is actually 
>hosted on goacom, not yahoogroups. GOACOM offers this service to 
>goanet for free, with no strings attached. 

How interesting, given the fact that I�ve been reading goanet via the web, 
conveniently archived on yahoogroups from around mid 1998 at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goanet  AND http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net 
Thousands of messages right from Sun Jul 19, 1998  2:59 pm from a certain Marlon 
saying � Welcome to the New GoaNet!� Check it out at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goanet/message/1

So its not just one yahoogroup that we are referring to here. Its TWO. Isn�t it a 
gross waste of yahoogroup space to create multiple lists and cross-subscribe them to 
each other (and to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to achieve FREE archiving? I�m sure you must be 
aware that yahoo did not exactly envision their free service to be used in such a 
manner. Also, being in the web business, I�m sure you are aware that by giving free 
service, yahoo hopes to recoup their costs via advertising in the bottom line of every 
mail that passes though their servers, in exactly the same way that goacom inserts �To 
Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://goacom.com/goanet � thus promoting goacom 
with every email. But that�s besides the point of this particular email.


>Secondly as was posted by the goanet-admin team, Goanet/Herman 
>collects advertising money on goanet to support non-commercial 
>activities and promotional activities in Goa. 

As long as you keep goanet exclusively on the goacom servers, I would be in full 
agreement with you. Hell, why stop with advertisements. You could even charge $25 per 
post making goanet (and by extension goacom) the most profitable .com in history.

>Hence even if Goanet were hosted by Yahoogroups,it would not be 
>breaking their rules as goanet is a non-commercial entity. If 
>asked by yahoogroups, I expect Herman to be able to provide all the 
>necessary documentation/receipts.

Aah.. Here�s where you get confused. Herman does not break any rules by hosting goanet 
(in any of its avatar�s) on yahoogroups. Well, maybe he bends them a little with this 
elaborate setup, but as long as he uses yahoogroups, he cannot be charging for 
messages posted via [EMAIL PROTECTED]  This is where he breaks them.

He can set the rules that goanet does NOT allow any commercial posting, BUT cannot 
charge for them, for profit or otherwise.

>Now rather not surprisingly, Ulysses and Gaspar have in private threats 
>raised exactly the same issue as you

I�m not surprised. It�s a very visible issue. And specially to me since I�ve always 
used yahoo to read goanet messages since I do not like the digest form and getting 
individual messages clog my mailbox.


>and have threatened to shut down goanet by bringing this issue up with 
>yahoogroups. You will be happy to know that goanet will continue to 
>function regardless of what they try and do.


Whatever�  goanet on goacom cannot be affected by this move, hence goanet for the 
large part will live on (and I�m grateful for that).

>If it is anyone who should be worried about violating the rules of 
>yahoogroups, it should be them. They have consistently promoted the 
>floral business of their business partner in Goa on a number of their 
>mailing lists. Since they and their partner obtain clear material and 
>non-material gains through this collaboration, the phrase "don�t throw 
>stones in glass houses" comes to mind.

Excuse me..I believe you just said �the mailing list is actually hosted on goacom, not 
yahoogroups� even if Goanet were hosted by Yahoogroups..� quote unquote. So why are 
you suddenly saying that Uly and others are violating yahoogroups rules ? Moreover, 
which rule are they breaking ? I can start a non-profit list on yahoogroups called 
�goan-business� and state that only commercial advertisements be placed on that. My 
subscribers can financially benefit. As long as I DO NOT charge them to post, there is 
no violation of any rules.


>To the rest of the netters:
>Next, new "members" we never knew we had (such as our beloved Sonali),
>jump into the fray and repeat the same in public. Man, these guys make 
>some of our politicians in Goa look good.

I�m sorry if you consider me �new�. For some reason I could not post to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], hence had to newly subscribe via majordomo. And I will be 
unsubscribing very soon to stop my inbox from flooding over while still continuing to 
read goanet posts on yahoogroups where there are archived.

You have a great day now,
Sonali.

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