goanet-digest Tuesday, June 11 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4069
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[Goanet] Re: [goanews] COLUMN -- Whose Sorry Now
[Goanet] Re: Threats from Gaspar and Ulysses to shut down goanet
[Goanet] FEATURE: The boy who hawked newspapers could become India's first citizen
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:52:02 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Re: [goanews] COLUMN -- Whose Sorry Now
Madam Margaret,
You write well and I enjoyed your posting. I
would however like to add that fractured assemblies are common and I will
give you some examples. In Germany the ruling party, the Socialists under
Helmut Schroeder rule with the help of the Greens who have garnered a plum
ministry namely that of the Min. of Foreign Affairs, Josca Fischer. In France
Chirac governed till before the Assembly elections held on the 9th. of this
month with those of the centre left though Chirac belongs to the centre
right. The efficient Prime minister was from the Socialists.
In politics, absolute power corrupts absolutely and it is evident that
Bhandodkar, Rane and Sashikala Kakodkar had absolute powers and passed laws
unopposed like say the mundcar act. Many of these mundcars do not possess
titles to the house but act like the owners. I compare these to a gardeners
dog who does not eat cabbages and will not let others do so. Try this for a
change.
Not possessing titles and having no capital, they are unable to
secure loans from banks thereby stiffling the economic growth of Goa. Those
who invest are those that have profitted from the system like those Miners
(Dempe, Salgaonkar, CMM and all), and those NRI's that earn their money
abroad and invest in Goa.
I wonder if you are aware that I was defrauded by the Centurion Bank
in Mapuca who helped a Parsi Chartered Accountant to forge, withdraw money
using my Fixed Deposit receipt. Even money from my savings account was not
spared as the CA was paid from this account using a plain note with my forged
signiture. I complained to the police who sat on the matter ....... Why am I
writing all this when I can send you a cutting of the incident. Parrikar was
decent and asked the police to get cracking. The BM was arrested. I have seen
the roads in Goa under Parrikar's watch. He is a technocrat and ought to be
trusted.
What does it matter to us if the cat is black (BJP) or white (Congress)
provided it catches the mouse and is efficient. The BJ has been the most
efficient government even though they formed a coalition. If Parrikar is
secure in his Chief Ministership, I am certain that Goa will see more
progress than we have seen since Goa was liberated. Mark my word.
Edgar Martins
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Date: 12 Jun 2002 01:32:55 -0000
From: "Sonali Prabhudesai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Re: Threats from Gaspar and Ulysses to shut down goanet
Marlon,=0A=0A>It is very good to hear from you albeit under your phony alia=
s. Would =0A>you by any chance happen to be related to an Ashok Chodnakar w=
ho =0A>apparently sabotaged Gaspar Almedia's computer on a number of =0A>oc=
assions?=0A=0AYou obviously got your head screwed on wrong ! I vaguely reme=
mber the Chodankar incidence. I believe your =91detectives=92 had identifie=
d Mr AC. to be posting from the gulf from another netters computer. From th=
e IP right? Well, a quick look at my IP would have put my location on the c=
lear on the other side of the globe.=0A=0ASo to answer you, NO, I=92m not i=
n any way related to the people and incidents you are alluding to. And if y=
ou don=92t believe me, its really NOT MY problem.=0A=0AI=92ve been on this =
mailing list for an extremely long time. The only problem is that I hadn=92=
t subscribed via goacom=92s majordomo and this statement provides me a way =
to dovetail into my second point.=0A=0A>Anyway, to answer your question: No=
, goanet is not violating >yahoogroups policies. For one thing, the mailing=
list is actually =0A>hosted on goacom, not yahoogroups. GOACOM offers this=
service to =0A>goanet for free, with no strings attached. =0A=0AHow intere=
sting, given the fact that I=92ve been reading goanet via the web, convenie=
ntly archived on yahoogroups from around mid 1998 at http://groups.yahoo.co=
m/group/goanet AND http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-net Thousands of mess=
ages right from Sun Jul 19, 1998 2:59 pm from a certain Marlon saying =93 =
Welcome to the New GoaNet!=94 Check it out at http://groups.yahoo.com/group=
/goanet/message/1=0A=0ASo its not just one yahoogroup that we are referring=
to here. Its TWO. Isn=92t it a gross waste of yahoogroup space to create m=
ultiple lists and cross-subscribe them to each other (and to goanet@goacom.=
com) to achieve FREE archiving? I=92m sure you must be aware that yahoo did=
not exactly envision their free service to be used in such a manner. Also,=
being in the web business, I=92m sure you are aware that by giving free se=
rvice, yahoo hopes to recoup their costs via advertising in the bottom line=
of every mail that passes though their servers, in exactly the same way th=
at goacom inserts =93To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://goacom.c=
om/goanet =93 thus promoting goacom with every email. But that=92s besides =
the point of this particular email.=0A=0A=0A>Secondly as was posted by the =
goanet-admin team, Goanet/Herman =0A>collects advertising money on goanet t=
o support non-commercial =0A>activities and promotional activities in Goa. =
=0A=0AAs long as you keep goanet exclusively on the goacom servers, I would=
be in full agreement with you. Hell, why stop with advertisements. You cou=
ld even charge $25 per post making goanet (and by extension goacom) the mos=
t profitable .com in history.=0A=0A>Hence even if Goanet were hosted by Yah=
oogroups,it would not be =0A>breaking their rules as goanet is a non-commer=
cial entity. If =0A>asked by yahoogroups, I expect Herman to be able to pro=
vide all the =0A>necessary documentation/receipts.=0A=0AAah.. Here=92s wher=
e you get confused. Herman does not break any rules by hosting goanet (in a=
ny of its avatar=92s) on yahoogroups. Well, maybe he bends them a little wi=
th this elaborate setup, but as long as he uses yahoogroups, he cannot be c=
harging for messages posted via [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is where he br=
eaks them.=0A=0AHe can set the rules that goanet does NOT allow any commerc=
ial posting, BUT cannot charge for them, for profit or otherwise.=0A=0A>Now=
rather not surprisingly, Ulysses and Gaspar have in private threats =0A>ra=
ised exactly the same issue as you=0A=0AI=92m not surprised. It=92s a very =
visible issue. And specially to me since I=92ve always used yahoo to read g=
oanet messages since I do not like the digest form and getting individual m=
essages clog my mailbox.=0A=0A=0A>and have threatened to shut down goanet b=
y bringing this issue up with =0A>yahoogroups. You will be happy to know th=
at goanet will continue to =0A>function regardless of what they try and do.=
=0A=0A=0AWhatever=85 goanet on goacom cannot be affected by this move, hen=
ce goanet for the large part will live on (and I=92m grateful for that).=0A=
=0A>If it is anyone who should be worried about violating the rules of =0A>=
yahoogroups, it should be them. They have consistently promoted the =0A>flo=
ral business of their business partner in Goa on a number of their =0A>mail=
ing lists. Since they and their partner obtain clear material and =0A>non-m=
aterial gains through this collaboration, the phrase "don=92t throw =0A>sto=
nes in glass houses" comes to mind.=0A=0AExcuse me..I believe you just said=
=93the mailing list is actually hosted on goacom, not yahoogroups=85 even =
if Goanet were hosted by Yahoogroups..=94 quote unquote. So why are you sud=
denly saying that Uly and others are violating yahoogroups rules ? Moreover=
, which rule are they breaking ? I can start a non-profit list on yahoogrou=
ps called =91goan-business=92 and state that only commercial advertisements=
be placed on that. My subscribers can financially benefit. As long as I DO=
NOT charge them to post, there is no violation of any rules.=0A=0A=0A>To t=
he rest of the netters:=0A>Next, new "members" we never knew we had (such a=
s our beloved Sonali),=0A>jump into the fray and repeat the same in public.=
Man, these guys make =0A>some of our politicians in Goa look good.=0A=0AI=
=92m sorry if you consider me =93new=94. For some reason I could not post t=
o [EMAIL PROTECTED], hence had to newly subscribe via majordomo. And I wil=
l be unsubscribing very soon to stop my inbox from flooding over while stil=
l continuing to read goanet posts on yahoogroups where there are archived.=
=0A=0AYou have a great day now,=0ASonali.=0A=0A____________________________=
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:18:00 +0530
From: FREDERICK NORONHA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] FEATURE: The boy who hawked newspapers could become India's first
citizen
The boy who hawked newspapers could become India's first citizen (PROFILE)
By Deepshikha Ghosh, Indo-Asian News Service
New Delhi, June 10 (IANS) The boy who once hawked newspapers rose to become
the nation's top scientist and could now become India's 11th president.
Avul Pakir Jainulabdeen Abdul Kalam, the ruling coalition's choice for the
July 15 presidential election, is at once a missile man, dreamer, dervish of
Indian defence and the winner of India's top civilian honour, the Bharat
Ratna, the jewel of India.
At least, these are just some of the terms used to describe the
self-effacing man who is credited with catapulting India into the elite club
of nuclear nations.
Kalam the dreamer has always driven Kalam the scientist.
"We must think and act like a nation of a billion people," he once said,
speaking of his desire to produce a reusable missile, which no country in
the world has been able to produce so far.
Kalam, who in 1998 was honoured with the Bharat Ratna, last made the
headlines in 2001 when he suddenly quit his job as scientific advisor to the
Indian government - because he wanted to teach the nuances of science to
young children.
There is a lot more to the slightly built, silver-haired Kalam, not just the
fact that he steered India's missile programme and played a key role in the
May 1998 nuclear tests.
Kalam was born on October 15, 1931, in a remote district in the southern
state of Tamil Nadu. His father rented out boats out to fishermen to pay his
son's school fees.
Kalam received his secondary education in a missionary school and later
graduated in science. In order to contribute in the family kitty, he even
delivered newspapers for a while.
Kalam went on to study aeronautical engineering at the Madras Institute of
Technology and, in 1958, joined the Defence Research and Development
Organisation (DRDO), from where he moved to the Indian Space Research
Organisation (ISRO). This was the beginning of a period of eminence.
Among his early successes was placing the 35-kg Rohini-I satellite on a
low-earth orbit with the SLV-III (satellite launch vehicle).
After 19 eventful years in ISRO, Kalam returned to DRDO to head the
country's Integrated Missile Development Programme and went on to direct the
successful launch of the Agni and Prithvi missiles.
In his early career, the only time he went abroad was in 1963-64 when
National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) invited him to spend
four months at the Wallops Island Rocketry Centre and the Langley Research
Centre.
Kalam, who is known as a great humanitarian, has also pioneered efforts to
provide dual use defence technology. In his own words, one of the happiest
moments in his life was the sight of a polio-afflicted child walking with
callipers made from lightweight metals used for Indian missiles.
The pinnacle of Kalam's success and one that made him a household name in
the country was the nuclear blasts in Pokhran in 1998. The triumphant
scientist later asserted: "Do things yourself. Do not indulge in short-cuts
by importing equipment."
A devout Muslim, Kalam can recite from the Muslim Koran and the Hindu
Bhagvad Gita with equal ease.
Friends have often seen him bending over a veena, a string instrument
depicted as the celestial music maker of Hindu goddess Saraswati, when he is
not writing poetry in Tamil, his first language.
Kalam is a vegetarian, a teetotaller and a confirmed bachelor. To his
friends and colleagues, he is the star who has always been self-effacing.
He has been honoured with many a national award. He was awarded the Padma
Bhushan in 1981, the Padma Vibhushan in 1990 and the HK Firodia Award for
Excellence in Science and Technology in 1996 to name just a few of the
awards that have come his way.
- --Indo-Asian News Service
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