goanet-digest Sunday, June 23 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4108
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[Goanet] You live in.........
[Goanet] WORLD CUP LATEST
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[Goanet] Mr. Joe Vaz's Reproach and Accusation
[Goanet] MUNICIPAL CORRUPTION FOLLOWS STATE AND NATIONAL LEVELS
[Goanet] 23 JUNE: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
[Goanet] 'SAO JOAO' in June or July?
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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 22:19:12 -0400
From: "Mervyn Lobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] You live in.........
You live in California when . . .
1. You make over $250,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house.
2. The high school quarterback calls a time-out to answer his cell phone.
3. The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway.
4. You drive to your neighborhood block party.
You live in New York when . . .
1. You've worn out a car horn
2. You have never been to the Statue of Liberty or the Empire State
Building.
3. You can get into a four-hour argument about how to get from Columbus
Circle to Battery Park, but can't find Wisconsin on a map.
4. You think Central Park is "nature,"
5. You believe that being able to swear at people in their own language
makes you multi-lingual.
6. You think eye contact is an act of aggression.
You live in Canada when......
1. You only have four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup and Tabasco.
2. Halloween costumes fit over parkas.
3. You have more than one recipe for moose.
4. Sexy lingerie is anything flannel with less than eight buttons.
5. The four seasons are: winter, still winter, almost winter, and
construction.
You live in the Deep South when . . .
1. You get a movie and bait in the same store.
2."ya'll" is singular and "all ya'll" is plural.
3. After five years you still hear, "You ain't from around here, are ya?"
4."He needed killin' " is a valid defense.
5. Everyone has 2 first names: Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, Mary Sue, Betty
Jean,etc.
You live in Colorado when . . .
1. You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car.
2. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home and he stops at
the day care center.
3.A pass does not involve a football or dating.
4. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail.
You live in the Midwest when . .
1. You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name.
2. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor.
3. You have had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" on the same day.
4.You end sentences with a preposition: "Where's my coat at?"
5.When asked how your trip was to any exotic place, you say, "It was
different!"
You live in Florida when...
1. You eat dinner at 3:15 in the afternoon.
2. All purchases include a coupon of some kind - even houses and cars.
3. Everyone can recommend an excellent dermatologist.
4. Road construction never ends anywhere in the state.
5. Cars in front of you are often driven by headless people.
6. There are only GIANT doctors in Florida (every person's doctor is "The
Biggest" in his field).
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 00:31:41 +0100 (BST)
From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?James=20d'souza?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] WORLD CUP LATEST
DISASTER AT 2002 WORLD CUP AND WHY?
WHY ARE THE KOREANS FAVORITES OF THE FIFA OFFICIAL,
THE SECRETS IS OUT, FIFA WAS PAID IN BILLION OF
DOLLARS IN BRIBES TO GET KOREA THE WORLD CUP BY THE
KOREAN MAFIA,REFREES WERE TOLD NOT TO BE TOO STRICT ON
THE KOREANS, THE PIC SHOWS IT ALL, WITH ITALY, SPAIN,
PORTUGAL,US,AND NOW IT WILL BE THE GERMAN,WATCH HOW
THE GERMANS WILL BE DISALLOWED ANY GOAL THEY SCORE
AGANIST THE KOREAN,UNLESS IT A GOOD SHOT, WATCH THE
GAME CLOSELY,
KOREA WILL TAKE THE WORLD CUP........
JAMES
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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:31:30 +0200
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 01:41:18 -0000
From: "santoshhelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Mr. Joe Vaz's Reproach and Accusation
- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Joe Vaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Mr. Santosh Helekar:
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>I feel sorry for you and sad, to note the way you responded to my
>last post, and to those before me who tried to exact an explanation
>on how you arrived at your spurious conclusions, on the subject
>matter. Did you really have to resort to your pale jokes, cheap-
>shots, and name-calling? I think that was totally unwarranted, and
>unbecoming of your status? I hope you will refrain from doing this,
>in the future. But if you think you can browbeat me and win an
>argument through your cheap theatrics, you are sadly mistaken. I
>hope you realize that all you are doing is demeaning yourself, in
>the bargain -- and you're doing a pretty good job at that.
>
Dear Mr. Joe Vaz:
Thanks for feeling sorry and sad for me. But I do not need your pity.
Please don't worry about my status. I consider my status to be no
different from that of an uneducated outcaste from my little Goan
village, who spends his day watching over cattle grazing in the
fields behind our house. I have never believed in social
stratifications, whether they are based on caste, religion,
education, wealth or proximity to God. You are free to feel secure
and triumphant on your high horse or whatever high status you
consider yourself to have ascended to, to deserve the right to
pretend to feel sorry and sad for me, to pass your privileged
judgments on what I write, and to distort and mischaracterize my
statements in this forum.
Your status, whatever it is, does not intimidate me. I am willing to
take any amount of unprovoked sarcastic ridicule and mockery from
you =96 something that you have resorted to in your previous post, as
indicated in the following quotes from you:
"Inasmuch as I like to believe our intellectual here who states
that: "Miracle is an appeal to ignorance." Like others on the forum,
I would like to request our esteemed scientist, -- to demonstrate to
this audience through his own scientific wit (or through his peer-
review) that the above are not miracles =96 but merely "an appeal to
ignorance."
"We can all see that we are not getting anywhere with Santosh's
rhetoric that "Miracle is an appeal to ignorance" =96 unless of course
he can substantiate through his scientific prowess and conclusively
prove that in fact miracle is an appeal to ignorance."
"You are NOT doing any service to either science or humanity here =96
but causing upheavals, by your constant mocking of the subject
matter."
But if you think that your high status gives you the privilege to be
left free from ridicule in return, you are sadly mistaken. Nothing
and nobody gives you the right to lecture other people on how to
express themselves in a secular public forum, and to expect
privileged treatment because of your perceived privileged status.
Please rest assured that every time you (or anybody else) presents a
one-sided view or factually inaccurate information on important
subjects that interest me, I will confront you with every instrument
of honest, outspoken and civilized public discourse available to me.
If your definition of civilized discourse does not include the use of
humor and sarcasm, especially and exclusively when the target is you,
that is your problem, not mine. Every time you ridicule me and my
field of work, I reserve the right to ridicule you and yours. If you
run for public office, I reserve the right to criticize you in
public.
I have closed my debate on miracles with you because I have made all
the points that I wanted to make this time around. I have also closed
it out of respect for Paddy. So I will not respond to your statements
on miracles.
Regarding your following request for "authentic photographs"
pertaining to the Theory of Evolution, I will provide you those
photographs as private email attachments. Unfortunately, this forum
does not permit email attachments. But I can do better than that. If
you are in Houston at any time, please let me know. I will be happy
to take you to the Museum of Science and Natural History, and show
you, not just the photographs, but the actual fossils of animals,
including primates that lived hundreds of millions of years ago. I
can show you how the type and diversity of these fossils changed with
each passing epoch.
Joe Vaz wrote:
"Well, let me ask you this, and based on your above request, I hope
that you will be able to oblige:
As an advocate for the "Evolution" theory, Santosh, can you provide
this audience "authentic photographs of these events" - of apes
evolving into humans?"
I can also show you other forms of objective physical evidence such
as comparative DNA analysis of apes and humans.
Joe Vaz wrote:
"SCIENCE HAS NOTHING TO SAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT THE EXISTENCE
OF GOD OR ABOUT PEOPLE'S SPIRITUAL BELIEFS."
I think you are right about the God part, but most likely wrong about
the spiritual part. The scientific study of normal and abnormal brain
function can give us fundamental insights into why people hold
spiritual beliefs, and into the nature of beliefs that they hold.
Finally, I submit to you that you have done worse than just ridicule
and jeer at me in your last post. You have accused me of
spreading "misleading information" and "spurious conclusions" on all
forums, as indicated in your assertions quoted below:
"All I can say is: My posts are not meant to win any arguments (or
play kiddy games with you) =96 they are simply to steer clear of your
jeering and misleading information strewn on the forums."
"I feel sorry for you and sad, to note the way you responded to my
last post, and to those before me who tried to exact an explanation
on how you arrived at your spurious conclusions, on the subject
matter."
I humbly request that you tell us which information provided by me
was misleading and spurious, and how you know what you are saying to
be true. I hope your elevated status permits you to reply
appropriately to a humble request made by a common man like me.
Best Regards,
Santosh
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:36:28 +0530
From: "aires" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] MUNICIPAL CORRUPTION FOLLOWS STATE AND NATIONAL LEVELS
With just a few days of rain, Panjim is flooded as is usual. Last year
the Panjim Municipal Chairperson and his fellow Civic fathers had assured
Panjimites that there would be no flooding henceforth. After all the digging
and cleaning of drains, Goa's Capital city has to endure another monsoon of
flooding. The Panjim roads are forever being dug although the civic
authorities had vowed not to allow any further fiddling with the city's
roads.
The Civic authorities should not attempt to take shelter under the lame
excuses that plastics and the high tide are causes for the flooding. The
authorities do not accept any excuses from the taxpayers if they are late in
paying the exorbitant municipal taxes. So it is more than fair that the
authorities do their job and fix the chronic problems Panjim has been
facing.
The renovated part of the Panjim Municipal Market was opened last year
amidst a lot of pomp and fanfare. The place is in dire straits today. The
civic fathers have nothing to worry as their shopping is delivered at home.
However, it is the common man who has to thread his way through a
stinking and water logged market while he shops for his daily needs.
In fact the Municipal authorities should have by now, as promised, come up
with a Master Plan for the city. There has been no serious effort
whatsoever to address the problem of garbage disposal. At this rate we will
soon have an epidemic and it will be too late for some of us.
The present civic bosses seem to be as corrupt and inefficient if not more
than their predecessors. Their focus seems to be legalising all the
illegalities that are being committed in broad daylight. It is obvious that
this brings the Civic fathers the gratification that they so very much
desire.
Today it makes no sense applying for a license to construct something
legally as the burden of the procedural route could be agonising. The best
option is to just commit the illegality and ensure that the palms of a few
councillors are aptly greased and they would be more than happy to turn a
Nelson's eye and further regularise the illegal construction.
You cannot expect the lower ranks of the Municipal staff to enforce the laws
when the bosses at the top are rotten and stink. Today designated parking
areas of various buildings are been used for all other commercial purposes.
The designated parking area of a City Hotel on the crowded 18th June Road
has been licensed by the Panjim Municipality to run a permanent Sales
exhibition. It was all possible with the blessings of the Civic fathers for
reasons best known.
The people of Taleigao, which was added to the Panjim Municipal Council a
few years ago, are all set to distance themselves from the aches and pains
of being part of the Panjim Municipal Council by demanding that Taleigao be
reverted back to a Panchayat. The people of Ribandar may also have to
consider the viable option of being part of the neighbouring Chimbel
Panchayat after enduring lack of any Civic amenities for the very high
Municipal taxes paid.
Aires Rodrigues
Ribandar
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:04:56 +0530
From: "Joel D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] 23 JUNE: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
23 June 2002
HATS OFF TO YOUNG COPS: Exemplary courage shown by the two new
recruitsconstable Avinash Naik and Sudesh Naik Gaunkarhelped in the arrest
of Garibdas Daheliya and Dada Pawarwho were involved in the dacoity at the
bungalow of former Industries Minister Babu Naik in Margao. Meanwhile, the
police recovered the vault sans a silver cup and a pendant, which was
lifted by the accused and broken open on the railway tracks. (WE-GT)
ANOTHER HOUSE ROBBED: Unknown accused effected entry into the house of
Euphemia Noronha in Carvota-Loutulim yesterday night and made good with
some household article and cash, totally amounting to Rs.12,300. (WE-GT)
DROP IN FISH CATCH: The Economic Survey of Goa 2001-02 has revealed that
annual fish catch in marine and inland areas has been over exploited
particularly during the last five years. Within inland areas, the catch
indicates a very meager rise from 3270 tonnes to 3749 tonnes between the
period 1997-2001, while the over-exploitation of fish catch in marine areas
indicates a sharp decrease from 91,277 tonnes to 69,386 tonnes. (H)
MHADEI WATERS MUST NOT BE DIVERTED: Goa Pradesh Committee president Nirmala
Sawant urged more vigilance on the part of the Parrikar government and
demanded it compel the Central government to restrain the Karnataka
government from diverting waters from the Mhadei river. (WE-GT)
TEACHER-STUDENT RATIO: The Director of Education, Mr GL Pednekar,
categorically denied that the decision to review teacher-students ratio
would pose any threat to the jobs of the teachers, but observed that the
need to recruit new teachers would not arise. The department has altered
the prevailed 1:16 ratio to 1:25, thus increasing the number of students by
nine per teacher. (H)
CONCERN OVER LANDSLIDES: The chairperson of the Mapusa Municipal Council,
Michael Carrasco, has expressed great concern over the growing number of
landslides in the city (Mapusa) and has requested the chief Minister,
Manohar Parrikar, to take necessary steps to prevent further disasters. (WE-GT)
MATHANY INSPECTS DRAINAGE SYSTEM AT CORTALIM: Cortalim MLA, Mathany
Saldanha, inspected the flood prone areas at Voll in Cortalim on Friday. (H)
UGDP NOT INTERESTED IN PLUM POSTS: The United Goans Democratic Party has
expressed its anger over the news that the UGDP leaders have been claiming
plum posts in corporations and other government bodies. (WE-GT)
SCOOTERIST HURT: A complaint has been lodged with the Panaji police saying
that Atool Mulgaonkar, a resident of Caranzalem, drove his vehicle in a
rash and negligent manner and rammed into a Scooty thereby causing injuries
to the scooty rider near St Inez Church on June 11. (NT)
FULLBRIGHT FELLOWSHIPS: The United States Educational Foundation in India
has invited applications from Indian citizens for award of maximum four
Fullbright fellowships, in the field of plastic arts, performing arts,
museum studies and art and culture management. (NT)
PANCHAYATS OVERLOADED? Panchayatsthe elected, village councils looking
after the administration of Goa's rural areashave often to subsist on
meager levels of funds, but yet have to carry out a long list of
responsibilities. (Frederick Noronha in Herald)
COPS TO DECONGEST ASSOLNA MARKET: The Police in Margao have promised the
Assolna villagers to decongest the market from traffic at a police-public
interaction organised by the panchayat members. (WE-GT)
BEAUTIFICATION OF LOHIA MAIDAN: In his address during the felicitation of
freedom fighters in Margao, Power Minister Digamber Kamat promised to start
the beautification work of the Lohia maidan immediately and stated that the
freedom fighters would be consulted while framing the beautification plan.
(WE-GT)
GOA BUYS 6 LAKH LITRES OF MILK: Goa Dairy buys 5 to 6 lakh litres of milk
per month from outside Goa to meet the local demand for milk, according to
Ulhas Korgaonkar, director of Goa State Co-operative Milk Producers Union.
(WE-GT)
ZACHARIAS' NAME RECOMMENDED BY KALAM: Prof PS Zacharias, who has been
appointed as vice chancellor of Goa University, was recommended by the
search committee under the chairmanship of renowned scientist Dr APJ Abdul
Kalam. (H)
ADMISSION FOR PHILOSOPHY: Twenty-one new candidates were enrolled for their
first year of Philosophy course at the Patriarchal Seminary of Rachol for
the new academic year. (H)
S P O R T S
GOAN GIRLS FOR FOOTBALL CAMP: The All India Football Federation has
selected 37 women probables for the coaching camp to prepare the women
Indian team to participate in the forthcoming Asian Games in September. The
Goa players are Rita D'Costa, Uvena Fernandes, Maymol Rocky, Blanca Barreto
and Macklean Mendonca. (NT)
D E A T H S
22 June: Mapusa: LT CDR JOE RANGEL (retd), husband of Ruby, father of
Jeanne/Clarence Athaide, Indira/Carminho Costa, Vincent/Nirmala, Michael.
22 June: Vasco: VAIKUNTH GAONKAR (Ex-Goa Police), husband of Neela,
father of Mandila, Kritesh, Pritam and Pratap.
22 June: Goa Velha: ABEL DIAS, husband of Laura, father of Estelina,
Berni/Ashok, Deodita/Wilson, Matilda/Francis, Concy/Joaquim.
20 June: Calangute: SR IMMACULATA (MARIE JACOB FERNANDES), daughter of
late Ismael/late Beatrice, sister of Caroline/late Archie Pinto, late
Joe/late Ida, late Anton/Tessy, Trinity/Joan.
22 June: Ambaji: PASCOAL BARBOSA, husband of Esperanca, brother of
Dumiana, father of Jose Antonio/Tosy, Thomas/Isabela, Conceicao/Carmelina,
Xavier/Aliba, Emilia/Philip and Vicent.
20 June: Navelim: ROSE CATHERINE PEREIRA, wife of Antonio, mother of
Melwyn/Sandra, Tanya/Lionel Baptista (UK).
22 June: Margao: ORLANDO CIPRIAN JOSEPH DIAS, husband of Celia, father
of Alexandria and Niana.
21 June: Davorlim: INOCENTE R REBELLO, husband of Mary, father of
William (Bahrain)/Succorina, Clovis/Pramila (Dubai), Leonard, Gracy/Joaquim.
G O A W E A T H E R
Temp: 26.5 deg C (79.7 deg F) at 7.30 am at Assagao.
Max temp: 27.5 deg C; Humidity: 98 per cent. (Panjim yesterday)
Rainfall so far: 1063.3 mm
Weather: No heavy this morning, except for intermittent drizzles.
Courtesy: H=Herald, NT=The Navhind Times, WE-GT=Weekender-Gomantak Times
Daily Goacom News Clippings also at: http://www.goacom.com/news
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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 01:21:31 +0300
From: "Eddie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] 'SAO JOAO' in June or July?
Dear Lino Bab,
Is it 24th July or June 24th Monday?
I think it is Monday 24th June..
Eddie Verdes
Saudi Arabia
> The famous song 'SAO JOAO' composed by the great
> tiatrist of Konkani stage, the late C. Alvares,
> reminds me the good old days, how we used to sing
> merry songs of San Joao and walk to the well, where
> they (zanvoi) take a plunge into the water.
>
> Monday 24th July San Joao feast let me give you the
> lyrics of the famous song.
>
> SAO JOAO
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