Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! ------------------------------
Dear Filomena, A few months ago there was the release, at Lisbon's "Casa de Goa", of a three-volume genealogical study of several Portuguese descendants of the former Portuguese India, funded by "Funda��o Oriente". The title of the book was "Os Luso-Descendentes da India Portuguesa". - I would say that "Luso-Indians" are precisely these "Luso-Descendentes", i.e. those whom we used to call "Descendentes" or "Mesti�os". Now, Luis's saying that the offspring of the mixed marriages between the Portuguese and Indians, who were known as Luso-Indians, are now called Goans, is utterly wrong. Jorge ----- Original Message ----- From: Filomena Giese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet]comment on the below message > Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! > ------------------------------ > > Dear Luis, > I must say that I have not heard the term > Luso-Indians. Please tell us what your source is for > this term. > I thought that the offspring of Portuguese-Indian > marriages or liasons were "mesticos". There is a > well-defined "racial" delineation of the Portuguese > period that I was told about: > 1. Descendentes: descendants of Portuguese settlers > who married other Portuguese, and indeed, continued to > do so until our own times > 2. Mesticos - offspring of marriages between > Portuguese and Indians (Goans as we know them in Goa) > 3. Goans/Indianos - those without Portuguese blood at > all. > Is this true? Perhaps there are others on Goanet with > knowledge about this who would care to comment. > Filomena > --- luis godinho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and > > January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy > > canteen). See you there! > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > In 1500 the Portuguese Governor of India, Alfonso > > d'Albuquerque encouraged > > his countrymen to marry Indian women in order to > > establish Portuguese > > authority in India. The offspring of these mixed > > marriages between the > > Portuguese and Indians were known as Luso-Indians > > and now they are called > > Goans: a common community in Goa, Bombay (Mumbai) > > and West Coast India. > > > > > > In its early days, the East India Company's Board of > > Directors did not allow > > families or wives to travel along with its officials > > and soldiers to India. > > The English missed the companionship of their women > > and many of them had > > relationships with Luso-Indian and Indian women. > > > > > > The offspring of these mixed marriages and > > relationships are known as the > > Anglo-Indians. In 1687, the EIC encouraged marriages > > between European > > soldiers and Indian women, and even paid the mother > > of mixed offspring five > > rupees on the day the child was christened. > > > > > > Until 1911 Anglo-Indians were universally known as > > Eurasians. For > > occupational purposes and as a point of > > differentiation from the Europeans > > and the Indians, they were designated Statutory > > Natives of India; while for > > the defence of Empire purposes, they were called > > European British Subjects. > > ########################################################################## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##########################################################################
