--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >Christian Religion will set you free from bondage. > > > > I am sorry, but I have to say that the recent series > of posts by > Father Ivo are actually very confusing. > this assertion, and then says, "Here you have > misunderstood the > meaning of science." > > > > > There is no contradiction here. My statement applied > to someone who > used faith as a reliable source of knowledge of the > natural world. I > do not rely on faith. No real scientist does.
I am a scientist seeking > natural explanations > for natural phenomena. I will always be skeptical of > anyone who > claims that his/her supernatural beliefs and > miraculous explanations > are not in conflict with science. > > Cheers, > > Santosh Dear Santosh, Thanks for clarifying what you actually did/did not say. We are lay people, experts neither in science nor religion who are reading these complicated posts. However, it seems to be commonsense to hold that science gives explanations of the natural world through experiments that verify the natural phenomena, as you say. This is not a matter of faith but of looking at the evidence and coming up with a reasonable explanation of the observed phenomena. I think that the source of the argument is that Religion (which has not been properly defined in the argument and which I think means a set of beliefs in a supernatural Power and a set of moral standards) is the source of values but Science has no moral values. To me the idea of a Religion is that one has to believe in a supernatural order and some moral values that have been selected - thus, homosexuality is condemned by many religions as immoral. Science, on the other hand, examines natural phenomena - moral values may or not come out of the process, they are not necessary to the scientific process. Science would examine homosexuality as a natural phenomenon, not as something outside a moral order as some religions claim it to be. The question now is, should faith and morals adapt to new scientific understanding of something like homosexuality, or should we condemn practising homosexuals as sinners? Filomena > > ########################################################################## > # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > # > # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), > and avoid top-posts # > # More details on Goanet at > http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ########################################################################## __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ########################################################################## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##########################################################################
