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With due respect to Gilbert Lawrence, this is rather confused thinking! A classic case of building up a lot of invalid presuppositions, and then trying to build a logical case on that foundation.

Now, we're really going round in circles:

Proud of Americans > Goans gave them a great welcome > Fred was having a

bad day > Tourism is Goa's number 1 industry >  Tourism employs 30-50% of

native Goans > Anyway, tourist earnings are important > If the US sailors

did a PR job, let's all do the same > We could tie-in the caste debate

here too > I did social work > You too should do it > There were Spanish

Jesuits then > There aren't Spanish Jesuits now > So perhaps you're not

it > Do we need to invite those Spanish priests back > Or, do you just

want to lay your hands on my money ?

Gawd! Gimme a break. Shouldn't an argument flow logical and be based on facts (rather than assumptions)? FN

PS: I have nothing against Gilbert but just can't cope with the logic he's putting through above.

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Gilbert Lawrence wrote:

Gilbert Lawrence responds:

It is likely that the negative responses on this subject do not speak
for many cyberNet native-Goans. Ani amcho Fred was having a bad day.
:=)) The point about tourist-spenders in Goa is typical of our response.
Please let me gently remind us (from the other end of the globe) that
tourism is Goa's number 1 industry, employing 30-50% of native Goans.
Some may feel tourists-poixe may not be important to them. Most of us
complain /write when we loose it, like our other assets.

The US sailors did something as a PR job! True my friend! Why don't the
rest of us do the same? We could live with good PR from the poor and the
lower caste. Or are we paying lip service? :=)). If my plan of the
volunteer work is not priority, why don't you ani others suggest
something else? You are the one who will coordinate it. :=)) I should be
thanked for planting the 'volunteer idea' on this cyberspace. And let me
thank some of you for responding (positive and negative) to this thread
and keeping this topic alive.

As regards volunteering. Yes! I have done it in my years in St. Xavier's
College, Bombay. Twice a year (during vacation break) the college
sponsored a two-week Social Service camp. In far off (poor) villages of
Maharashtra, after spending our own money, we - about sixty boys and
girls (mostly Goans, graduate and postgraduate students) through our own
muscle power and elbow grease - built roads, dug wells, dug latrines,
repaired small dams, did a paint-job and other manual things. Later as a
physician I provided medical care to these poor villagers (and campers)
whilst other students did the above. I am not sure that this is still
being done- since the Spanish padres are no longer there to coordinate
these social service camps.

So my ganv-bhav ani ganv-bhoinis, I am sharing with you my personal past
and present experience. I hope this will generate some real
soul-searching which it is time we-Goans do. We are often good at
pointing the fingers at others when we can't/won't do it ourselves. And
I am equally guilty of this!

So don't you think some of those winter-Goenkars coming to bangarachem
Goem would spare a week and volunteer six hours a day in exchange for
four hours of borem camaraderie, Konkani sing-song, feni, xitt,
nisteanchi kodi or dukrachem mas ani miskutt ani finally a borem vodlem
Dev borem korum? :=))

Or do we need to invite those Spanish padres back? :=))
Or does helping Goa mean - just send Poixe!!! :=))
Regards.



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