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Jose Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:06:47 -0800 (PST) Responding to DEVIKA SEQUEIRA's byline (Oct 30, 04 Deccan Herald): "An attempt to present the 'OTHER' face of Goa did not gather support", Well known Goan IT specialist and Independent Thinker Dr. Samir Kelekar wrote the following on Goa-Net on Mon Nov 1, 2004: < This is what I heard from a reliable source. At a recent male-only retreat by an Indian company in a renowned 5 start hotel, 100 male members were supplied with 100 young girls as companions for the evening. The girls turned out to be LOCAL teenage girls from the surrounding villages. .....I think it is time Goa legalize and regulate prostitution.> JC: There Samir Kelekar post generated quite a roll of email - with many posts crossing my way. Most of it quite intelligent, some of it quite puerile. Now, after days of being bombarded with SHOOT the MESSENGER posts (Mr. Cecil Pinto v Dr. Samir Kelekar), with SWINGS of words, I received this from a Miguel Braganza - directed to Dr. Samir Kelekar. Miguel Braganza boroita to Samirbab: < evidence against the 5-Star hotel and the 100 girls alleged by YOU [ You are unable to upline your sources...perhaps because there are none;-( .] to have been 'procured' or 'supplied' ? In fact, what is your case? APOLOGISE [ on Goanet, where you posted the carnard about 100 GOAN girls] if you are a man. Hold your peace if you are a wimp> JC: I beg your indulgence as I post this here on this UNCENSORED Goa list. I personally am NOT sure that GoaNet will publish my response (uncensored). Hence, it is NOT being sent there. I will copy it to all concerned. JC's RESPONSE to Miguel Braganza: Ola Miguelbab! I am always delighted to receive interesting mail from good Goans like yourself. You make no bones about your views & that is good. I personally am not too fond of Fence Sitting Ostriches. Having said that, I have a few queries wrt to posts (quoted above) You have asked Samir to APOLOGISE on Goanet, where you He posted the carnard about 100 GOAN girls. 1. Miguelbab, WHERE in Dr. Kelekar's post did you find the word "GOAN"? 2. If you have difficulty with my asking that question, please see attachment #1 below. Please deliberate carefully on the word "OUSTING" 3. Now, should Dr. Kelekar APOLOGIZE because the number of LOCAL girls (? of any origin -> Russian, Nepali, Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkotta etc) may have been 20 or 3 or 99 instead of 100? 4. Granting that his "reliable" informant may or may not have exaggerated the number of LOCAL girls in question, You have a problem with the main premise of Dr. Kelekar's post? 5. Are you suggesting that Prostitution is NOT a problem in Calangute? Are you saying that the STUFF ain't happening in Goa at all? Are you suggesting that it is dangerous for ALL Goans to have the possibility of un-regulated Prostitution going on in Goa? 6. If not, WHAT exactly are you saying? 7. I wonder WHY you guys - in your supreme hyper-defensive effort - missed the main point that Samir was making i.e. "I think it is time Goa legalize and REGULATE prostitution".? 8. In your anti-Samir hypertension, You guys also appear to have missed what the Devika Sequeira byline was pointing out i.e. that Goa has a "FUN" image. And that is NO compliment. 9. I hope you folks saw "Julie" - and protested against the stereotyping of Goan female image in Bollywood. If you did, do forgive me for NOT having found it on the net. Perhaps you good people have written it in the Local Print papers which (as Mr. Frederick Noronha likes to point out) I do not get to read ...... until about 4-5 weeks later (;-) ! 10. I suggest that we should look at WHY Goa is allowing it's good name from being besmirched by such stories...... especially the ones which are True! 11. When you good people have the time, please access the URL posted below, and then determine again -whether Dr. Kelekar should apologize, or whether he should be thanked for caring enough. 12. I sincerely hope that present day Goans do NOT expect intellectual Goans to behave as client-State-subjects. i.e. Don't Think or else We will abuse you. Behave like an Ostrich, and we will erect a shrine for you. I sincerely hope NOT. just my view jc ATTACHMENTS: #1: CALANGUTE COPS NAB PROSTITUTES: Three prostitutes from Mumbai, who had made Baga their camping grounds, were nabbed by the Calangute police on November 4 evening. Sources disclosed that Baga, Calangute and Candolim have become hunting grounds for call girls from Mumbai, who are OUSTING the Russian hookers from Calangute. (H) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00392.html #2: Factbook on Global Sexual Exploitation - India http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/india.htm #3: India's minors are getting exposed to the sex marketplace like never before in a range of hot-spots, including Mumbai, GOA, Karwar, Trivandrum, Puri and Manali, say activists and officials. "There just aren't enough women. So the supply is met with boys." But Davesh Shrivastava, superintendent of police, CID, GOA, who combats the problem on the ground, says his force is crippled by the absence of specific laws on child abuse. He says the children of Lamanis, nomadic tribals from Hubli in Belgaum who arrive during peak tourist seasons, are the chief target group in GOA. The police are also concerned about the use of Internet, highlighted by the recent arrest of doctor in Tamil Nadu, to disseminate information about child prostitution. http://www.protectionproject.org/vt/2002/ne128.htm #4: World Sex Guide Document: Bombay http://www.worldsexguide.org/bombay.txt.html #5: Delhi rich girls sell sex http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3023826.stm #6: 'Since the money is good we can have a cool time - weekends in GOA or even travel abroad. The girls know there is a price to be paid. But we don't care,' the girl said. http://www.asiansexgazette.com/asg/south_asia/southasia02news04.htm #7: The idea is to establish direct contacts with the sex workers, truckers, hoteliers, and even COLLEGE GIRLS who are involved in the flesh trade http://www.aegis.com/news/afp/2000/AF000322.html #8: It's hard to know exactly why prostitution is such a booming industry. India is otherwise a very socially conservative country -- women and men marry very early, and divorce is rare. But I've noticed that whereas the women are expected to be monogamous, the MEN are not. http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/india304/aronson.html #9: Conspiracy of silence Various theories have come up. Is officialdom simply unable to comprehend its ramifications and modus operandi? Does police corruption explain the unofficial patronage that suspects seem to be getting, as in the case of drug mafias along the NORTH GOA coast? Commented one journalist from outside Goa, following the story: �It does sound like the noises coming from the Goan authorities could be smoke and mirrors though � the unmistakeable eau-de-bulls**t that often accompanies embarrassing reports such as Tehelka�s. I mean, hasn�t the government been criticised for failure to act in the past? Doesn�t a promise of publication (of parts of the report by Scotland Yard�s Rick Wood) seem to be �action�?� Tehelka �s own explanation is an economic one. Policy-makers and the State are unwilling to upset tourism�s apple-cart. The BJP chief minister Manohar Parrikar got criticised for not taking action, and sleeping over information. Parrikar has himself since conceded that a report was submitted to the Goa government in 2001 on the issue. Since then, suggests Tehelka, some three financial years have passed and the Goa government has netted approximately Rs 4,000 crore as revenue from the tourism sector. http://www.humanscape.org/Humanscape/2004/Oct/theendof.php
