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Marlon, It looks like you have crawled out from under your rock to continue your vile diatribes. Until then the dialog on goanet had been heated but quite civil. Goanet readers of all stripes have shown they are quite capable of debating me and interpreting my comments without your mean-spirited and bilious assistance. I don't attack anyone personally, Marlon, unless they start levying vicious, emotional personal attacks as you have just done, including comments by Chris Vaz, who has not posted any comments on this forum, without any context or detail. Are goanet readers just supposed to believe your opinion of someone else? Who quit and made you the boss? Observing that someone who has criticized every detail of the regime change in Iraq may be a Saddam supporter is hardly a personal attack. Why else would they oppose the removal of such a brutal dictator and his replacement with a democracy? If they are not supporters of Saddam, they should be quite capable of explaining their staunch opposition to his regime change. 48% of the US electorate who did not vote for Bush are not staunch defenders of Saddam. Only those who steadfastly and relentlessly oppose any opportunity for the Iraqis to decide their own fate, as Saddam did. As you must know, even if you followed only the left-wing media, John Kerry also supported the Iraq war, before he opposed it, and had threatened to be even more aggressive than Bush had been, before he threatened to withdraw the troops from Iraq, and then said he would not leave before the country could be protected by the Iraqis. On balance, he supported the removal of Saddam Hussein. So, Marlon, let's see if you are capable of going beyond trying to intimidate people with your bile and insults and engaging in a civil debate: a) We all know that Saddam was a brutal dictator, b) We all know that the US, using UN resolution 1441 as a legal excuse, formed a coalition and deposed him, c) We all now know that the key members of the UN that opposed the coalition had a conflict of interest and were involved with Saddam in looting the country to the tune of some DOUBLE DIGIT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO, WITH PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND ON BOTH SIDES, WHY THE HELL ARE SO MANY INDIANS, WHO APPRECIATE THEIR OWN FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY, NITPICKING EVERY DETAIL AND OPPOSING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE IRAQI PEOPLE TO LIVE IN FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY? IF THE IRAQIS ARE MASOCHISTS AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE BRUTALIZED THEY CAN VOTE THE BAATHISTS BACK INTO POWER, WHO WILL RELEASE SADDAM, AND EVERYONE WILL LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER. WON'T THEY? SO, WHY NOT LET THE IRAQI PEOPLE DECIDE? WHAT SAY YOU, MARLON? Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ########################################################################## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ########################################################################## According to Mario's totally warped logic, 48% of the US electorate who did not vote for Bush supports Saddam, which leads him to the generalized conclusion that they sympathized with the terrorists! But then again, his friend Chris Vaz also made a generalized and very offensive link between Tariq's relgion, the muslims in Michigan and their apparent blanket support for terrorism. I suggest that these two in a box intolerant individuals be ignored. A quick search reveals that Mario has made it a habit to attack individuals on a variety of other non Goan forums on the net. This consistent mode of reverting to irrelevant attacks, suggests to me that there may be a deeper psychological issue involved than just "the war", terrorism, Saddam or even the caste system. Peter, Vivian etc have made their case supporting Bush and the war, without engaging in personal attacks against those who did not agree with them. While we continue to disagree on many of the fundamentals, it was still possible to engage in rational debates with them. Marlon > --- Mario Goveia wrote: > > By the way, since you are such a staunch defender > of > > Saddam Hussein, you must have thought he and his > > sadistic sons were great guys, and you must really > be > > opposed to freedom and democracy for the Iraqi > people. > --- Tariq Siddiqui wrote: > Therein lies the problem with people like you. You > cannot comprehend the fact that > there exist ordinary people around the world whose > opposition to a certain policy > does not make them supportive of the opposite of > that policy. > > Just because I did not support the war in Iraq, does > not make me, or the millions > like me, a supporter of Saddam Hussein. > > You prefer to see things that way only because you > cannot tolerate dissent or > comprehend objectivity. > > -Tariq