Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We had the privilege of watching the movie(Fahrenheit 911)last night on our local T.V. It was a real eye opener,..... > There were 42 members of the Bin Laden family in the U.S. at the time of the destruction of the twin towers. They were allowed to leave the U.S. without interrogation because of their connections to the Bush family. > Mario replies: Gabe is again posting discredited propaganda on Goanet. He and some others are so eager to believe and post anti-American propaganda that I find it amusing and so easy to rebut. When political propaganda has already been exposed with documented sources of information one would think that anyone honestly interested in the truth would know better.
Peter D'Souza's post has aptly shown that Gabe's comments about blacks being dienfranchised and Al Gore being denied the presidency (Thank God!) in 2000 are completely bogus and have been proven to be so. Gabe must be the only person in the western world to not know that the movie Farenheit 911 has been exposed as being full of deliberate falsehoods. The reason they are deliberate is that Michael Moore uses actual footage and sound bites, but he has cut and spliced these to completely twist the truth and make it unrecognisable. No one can inadvertantly do what he has done, and done repeatedly. For example, the 9/11 Commission investigated and reported on how the Bin Laden family was flown out of the US after 9/11 were completely false. The reports shows that Moore's claims are completely false, and he knew that they were false when he put these in. The Ethics and Public Policy Council has published a detailed analysis of Farenheit 911 called "War, Lies, and Videotape: A viewer's guide to Fahrenheit 9/11". The entire analysis can be read on the web site: http://www.eppc.org/news/newsID.2188/news_detail.asp This is what it says about Moore's blatant falsehood about the Bin Laden family being flown out of the US without interrogation because of their connections with the Bush family: Moore then tells us that, �In the days following September 11th, all commercial and private air line traffic was grounded� but that a group of Saudis, including Bin Laden family members staying in America, was permitted to fly out of the country. He then implies that something was wrong with these flights, that the people who departed were not properly interviewed by the FBI, and that this happened because the Saudis used their influence with the White House. He even has a former FBI agent (whom he admits was no longer in the FBI by the time of the attacks and so would have no direct knowledge of what happened) say that these people should have been interviewed. But Moore�s assertions are all wrong. First of all, the flights carrying Bin Laden family members did not take place while other civilian flights were grounded, as Moore suggests. The one flight that actually carried Bin Laden family members took place on September 20, a week after flight restrictions had been lifted. Flights carrying other Saudis also occurred on or after September 13, when flying was no longer restricted. Also, all the Saudis who left the country on the flights Moore mentions were in fact thoroughly interviewed by the FBI before leaving. And finally, the flights were approved personally (and exclusively) by White House counterterrorism head Richard Clarke, whom Moore later cites with approval as an authority. The 9/11 Commission Report makes short shrift of all of Moore�s accusations, stating that the commission �found no evidence that any flights of Saudi nationals, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of September 13, 2001. To the contrary, every flight we have identified occurred after national airspace reopened.� It states further that there was �no evidence of political intervention� to permit the flights, and finally observes that, �the FBI interviewed all persons of interest on these flights prior to their departures. They concluded that none of the passengers was connected to the 9/11 attacks and have since found no evidence to change that conclusion. Our own independent review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known links to terrorism departed on these flights� (http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf, pp. 329-30; also see pp. 556-558). In response to this, a spokeswoman for Moore told the Washington Post that �Moore did not intend to suggest that the Bin Ladens flew away while civilian flights were grounded��which is preposterous given what is plainly said in the film, and also fails to address all of the film�s other false claims on this issue (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10070-2004Jul23.html).
