Jose Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mario wrote: These hypocrites have also welcomed a third son's wife, WHO IS EUROPEAN.> > > <I am not aware of any circumstance other than > marriage where the issue of caste is relevent among Catholic Goans.> > Jose responds: >> I wonder if the "european" automatically becomes one of the "upper caste" in the Varna (colour) system. > > It is not restricted to Catholic Goans ....even > though the term "Catholic caste" is an oxymoron. > > Almost like a Compassionate Rightie or Leftie ! > (what sez Mario ?) > Mario sez: Jose, I can tell you that accepting an European D-I-L and rejecting an Indian D-I-L, regardless of their relative complexions, does not dilute or enhance the hypocrisy of the family I mentioned. They are still world-class hypocrites.
Second, there is a good reason why I did not mention non-Catholic Goans, and that is that the section of the discussion between Cornel and Gilbert in which I intervened was restricted to Catholic Goans. In my opinion, mentioning non-Catholic Goans did not fir in and would have only complicated the discussion. Yes, "Catholic caste" is an oxymoron at the theoretical level but not in the real world where it is very much a fact of life. Jose continues: > I am of the opinion that this thing called "caste" is NOT as important during marriage among educated Catholic Goans in Goa & the rest of India ....as it is among Catholic Goans who live abroad. > > It is present ....but not as much when compared to > NRGs. Mario replies: I understand that that is your opinion. However, whether your opinion fits the facts or not is what this dialog is all about. In my opinion, based on the limited sample of calls I have received, it is just as prevalent among Goans in Goa as with Goans in India but outside Goa, and as with NRGs, whether educated or not. > Jose says: It also is there within the Catholic Church! of that - I am quite sure. In the 2002 synod, it was recommended that each parish should have ONE confraria with ONE dress code. Doubt that has come into uniform effect yet. > > I suppose this separation plays right into the Swadeshi project - especially as it was never ever abolished within the Church. Mario replies: I have no idea whether the official "Catholic Church" in Goa has anything to do with caste, and I don't see how any Catholic Church can support the apartheit that the caste system is similar to, and still claim to be Catholic. However, I am aware that in Kerala there are separate Catholic Churches and parishes for Dalits, and Dalits do not attend the "upper caste" Catholic Churches, which is an abominable and despicable situation in my opinion. > >
