Dear Goan friends,
Having read the exchange of e-mails and the topic on Brazilians and railways, I 
would like to add that Brazil is supposed to be one of the major world 
exporters of know-how on railways. When I was posted in Iraq for the 
construction of a major world fertilizer complex, I did come across Mendes 
Junior, a major Brazilian company, installing a 1000 kms of railway lines in 
Iraq, using Chinese manpower.
Best regards to all.
Amilcar da costa
(Son of Aleixo da Costa of Goa) 

Subject: RE: An Essay on Uruguay by Alfredo de Mello.

Gabriel, "para ingles ver" is a frequently used expression in Portuguese 
language (both in Brasil and in Portugal) but of difficult translation because 
its meaning can be different from situation to situation. 

It can be used if you have something that you want to show off with. 
Something (often of little value) that you want to use to boast or to make a 
good impression.

I do believe that was the context Sergio Mascarenhas used it.

However, in your context, it may mean that the Brazilians were doing good work 
because they were being supervised by the English? I do not know, but maybe, 
but that is not the usual meaning people use that expression for.

You are right, the British were involved in building railways throughout the 
world and extensively in Africa and Asia. They built the railway structure of 
many African countries, including Mozambique. They also brought lots of British 
companies to Mozambique in order to supply raw materials for their railway 
systems. Lots of our Goans were employed in those companies. Their commitment 
and strong involvement in Mozambique (which started, I believe, with their 
interest for the railway system) probably explains why Mozambique is the only 
British Commonwealth Country which was not a British colony and which does not 
have English as one of the main languages.

Best regards
Paulo Colaco Dias.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabriel de Figueiredo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 17 February 2005 04:50
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> Cc: Alfredo de MELLO
> Subject: Re: An Essay on Uruguay by Alfredo de Mello.
> 
>  --- FERNANDO DO REGO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The tramways , waterworks and gas company were all
> owned by the British.
> 
> As an aside to the rather educational article, it
> appears that the British had a hand in installing
> railways throughout most of the world - hence, I
> suppose the Brazilian expression "Para ingles ver",
> meaning (and correct me if I am wrong) "doing work
> because one is being supervised".
> 
> This expression was used in a recent email I think
> from Sergio Mascarenhas, which brought back memories
> of my time with the Brazilians...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gabriel de Figueiredo.
> Melbourne - Australia


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