Hi Mario. Thanks for your response. Like a bad dream I keep coming back to keep you guys honest in your statements. Once again I hope you will bear with me for exposing your distortions.
Mario Goveia: Here is an excerpt from the article: "When India's founding Constituent Assembly debated making concessions for Outcaste-Christians, Jerome D'Souza, S.J., representing the Christians, rejected them, claiming there is no caste in Christianity." He sounds just like you, Gilbert. Clearly in the late 40's Jerome D'Souza must have known that the caste system was rampant among Goans. Obviously he had his eyes and ears closed. GL responds: Thanks for 'posting the quote' of Jerome D'Souza. What you have put in quotes from its very English cannot be the words of Jerome D'Souza but rather your's or someone else's interpretation of Jeome's thoughts. It does not even tell us the context of the statement. Clearly the Indian constitution was not being written for 2% of the population. Having said that, I fully support the statement there is "no caste in Christianity." Do you disagree with that statement? What are your colors including confused? :=)) Do you want to have your cake and eat it too? Do you love to argue? Please be honest? Do you and others have a problem with Caste or with the Catholic faith or both? Mario: Unfortunately, unlike you, I have too much personal experience with the caste system for any such article to affect my opinion. I think it is you who are confused. For those on the wrong side of the caste system, what difference does it make whether religion or culture is in play? GL responds: You have yourself publicly posted that your ONLY experience with caste among Goans is at the time of marriage. And I concurred. Are you in the match making business to have "too much personal experience"? You want Goans to change. But you and others want to continue your Goan mentality of 'Aum soglem zano'. You read everything else. Is that because you do not know or are confused about the rest? :=)) As I said before, not all of the anticasteist say the same thing- if they know what they are saying. Even after the good padre told us the stand of our religion and that caste and any discrimination is a sin, Cornell in the response to Fr. Ivo, referred to the Goa Bishop. Is he hinting that the Goa Bishop is living in sin? Mario: You keep repeating that you don't endorse the caste system, but you continue to make every possible excuse for it and it's continuance. For example, your amazing comment, "One can change the system if and when we have another better substitute (for Goan culture and support-network) which is why a society exists." GL responds: Again you are not understanding what you are reading. The system refers to the Goan culture which is specified. Again you overlook the obvious and go after some preconceived notion. Perhaps all your personal experiences in which you have quoted others, have similar distortions of the facts - with your own interpretation / and thoughts instead of the person you are referring to. Mario: I disagree completely, and consider the notion that we need to wait to change a system of discrimination for any reason to be bizarre to say the least. Goan culture and society would be far better off without an organized system of discrimination in place. GL: I full agree with your above statement. Pray please make such rationale statements in your entire article. It would benefit us all. On that note of agreement let me leave you with the following quote: Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. Regards.
