From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ??? George! Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:13:44 -0700 (PDT)--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pedeophile priests and practice are not a Catholic or Christian Doctrine, but definitely a human failure of these persons. hence religion is not at fault here. Humans are weak and so all the more they need God. Sin is a condition of 'MAN' and the Christian religion tries to help towards a reduced sin and or sinless society.
>In coments made about Hindus, and or Muslims and >Sikhs; it is their religion, and shows in their >religious practices; in these cases it is not >their human failure; but a practice of their >religion; or so they say. These controversial >practices have not been denied by them, as religious >practices, ever. That's the difference!
Santosh asks: Do the pious and religious people on Goanet agree with
the above assessment? Do they have anything to say to Nasci Caldeira, here? I would love to see some of their selflessness, tolerance, and love and affection towards others in action.
Nasci asks santosh:
What is your assessment? dear Santosh.
Does your science only leads a tirade against 'Christian Beliefs' in the name and under cover of Science?
What does your Science have to say about Hindu and Muslim and Sikh and Bhudhist beliefs and practices? Not a word from you!
Are u a fundamentalist hindu under disguise of an agnostic?
Are you implying that multiple hindu gods are Scientist proven and accepted, but not Jesus as God?
Are U saying that Bhudhists and Zorastrians and Muslims and Sikhs and Jains etc have their beliefs and practices proven scientifically?
I do not know; I think you are confusing Science with Religion and trying to 'create confusion' within Christian and other religions and covering up the beliefs of your own religion. Looks like you are privately ashamed of you own beliefs! And then you have the 'gall' to say that Chistians and others are not secularist in the public domain.
All that I have been trying to say is that: The Hindu beliefs are spilling out into the 'Streets' and into laws being made without consideration of their impact on the 'cultural and religious freedom' of other groups. That is why, all religious practices whether muslim, hindu or christian, sikh, Bhudhist,Jain or Zoraster, should be strictly private and not be allowed to spill over outside their home or place of religion! This includes wearing of 'religious clothes' and other external trapments, when in public jobs and schools and universities etc. For the precise reason of avoiding 'conflict' in religious sentiment and thereby ensuring a peaceful society.
All places immediately outside the 'home and home yard' and outside the place of 'religious practice and the religion place yard', would be considered public places, and out of reach for religious practices like processions and noise emanating elements. There should be freedom for all to practice their religion at home or in their place of worship. Freedom of religion also includes the right to propogate religion in pre determined areas of interaction between peoples, but in private and within enclosures, approved by community and society.
The above is what is prevailing as of now in advanced and so called western countries; true religious freedom without conflict. All communities are free! Ban on cow slaughter and segregation in eating places and in places of worship are not the norm, like in India, and are simply not tolerated. There is lots of heresy and anti religious sentiment, but without violence; but religion survives, all the same. Freedom to believe or not to believe. To be and let be!
I Nasci demands an apology from Santosh Helekar for leading a 'tirade' against Christian beliefs only, in the name of science; and for twisting assertions and opinions to suit his mission of this 'tirade'.
I have nothing agianst your other scientific exploits and postings; let science progress; but let theology and pious beliefs also prevail. If u don't get sleep; than so be it. Don't spoil my sleep.
Nasci Caldeira Melbourne.
