--- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have never abused other people's faith.
Please do not mischaracterize my views.<


An indebt analysis of your earlier posts will reveal your intentions and mannerism in depicting the Church as being �sexists� and �racist�.

I was very disturbed that you, as an intelligent individual, could not decipher why God is referred to as �Father� by Catholics. With your pointed questions and implicit inferences you depict the Catholic Church as �sexist�. I was equally but emphatically dismayed by the fact that you added the race color to it, thus depicting the Church as �racist.� Further, to add insult to injury, somewhere along the line you compared the Catholic Church to the �Taliban�.

I have  always
offered fact-based arguments�

On George�s �fact-based� mission and contention: Isn�t George�s �pro-Church� stance overwhelming �even as he equates the Church to the Taliban? Believe this is one of George�s logical and �fact-based� bashings? Do we see the implied abuse here?

Your animosity and vendetta against the Church and Vatican is rampant; by your own admission, and through your occasional/partial disclosures you demonstrate just that:

George wrote:
If you do not  like the facts tell the Vatican, they are
responsible  for the facts. They 'create' the facts - elect
Popes, make saints who are mostly European. <

George, is the Vatican also responsible for continuously (yet democratically) electing a �white� President so far, in your adopted country the USA?

Be patient, your turn will come, George. God willing, the Church will see a non-white Pope �if that�s your worry. Personally, the color or race of the Church leader does not (and will not) weaken my faith.

In almost all your posts, on the subject, you have specifically targeted the Catholic Church �and spared no effort to show the Church in bad light. Did you ever make an attempt to have a balanced (unbiased) view, and tell your audience/s that the Church has also significantly contributed for the good of humanity worldwide? Not that Catholics need to know, but guess it would be ethically proper to equitably portray all the facts.

quit the name-calling, personal attacks, etc.<

So much for George�s fact-based (logical) arguments; now moving on to name-calling and personal attacks: If calling you a Professor (of Ethics), and an intelligent individual offended you, pray tell me how may I address you in a more polite or pleasing fashion?


GP earlier wrote:
A couple of questions:
1. Is God male, hence father?
2. Is God a white European male like most racist pictures depict him to be?<

I could not understand if you were asking the former question liken to the innocence of a child or as a theologian? In both cases you will find the answer in the Bible � for in several places in the Bible, Jesus refers to God as �Father�. The rest I leave to your own interpretation, (imagination) or better judgment.


The fact of pedophile priests is not my creation. I offer my opinions.<

Neither is the Church in the business of creating pedophiles, nor is it (Church) promoting the same. Pedophiles exist in other denominations, religions, and nations as well. Singling out the Catholic Church for a severe public bashing isn�t right. Undoubtedly, the Priests should be held to higher standards and discipline. Also, pedophile priests are subjected to the same state laws and punishment that exists for others, and are therefore meted with similar treatment. I don�t see it as being otherwise.

Yes, there have been some �bad apples� within the Church, but that does not mean that we paint all the rest of the priests with the same brush. Needless to say, the horrific acts perpetuated by these priests are condemnable and inexcusable. I don�t think the Vatican is covering up this stigma, but is finding ways to remedy the situation.

There are many strings on a guitar. To make beautiful music all of them must be played and not just one. So too, one may not criticize the Church on a selective and biased basis; it�s only fair that you touch or consider all aspects of the Church and for what it stands.

Best wishes,

Joe Vaz

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