George Pinto wrote: <Jose, if you want a serious discussion, cut the crap
about "George goes at John Paul II". I have changed the subject line in
keeping with the topic>
Good Morning George.
The above is fine by me, George. Dressing up in a 7 piece suit will not make
me an aristocrat. It is an indisputable fact that (as is the norm on these
lists - please check the archives) you, George have once again "gone after"
John Paul II.
When I pointed out John Paul's opposition to the Marxisation of Liberation
Theology in Latin America, you attempt to shift the goal post and now state
that :<The bigger issue is when and to what extent should
priests/nuns/bishops/cardinals/popes be involved in politics? .... Should
their non-involvement in a world full of injustices be considered
un-Catholic? >
The "bigger issue" is an excellent topic for another day, George. For now,I
will stick to the topic You raised. i.e. John Paul and Liberation
Theology...which (minus the Marxist hijacking) is a product of Vatican II.
re: my (JC) assertion that A Catholic Marxist-Leninist Priest would be an
epitomy of an Oxymoron, you write < Logically, it could also follow that a
Catholic Capitalist priest is an oxymoron.>
I agree with you - but NOT because any capitalist country would prohibit
Freedom of Religious Worship as the Marxists have done - albeit, step by
step.
BTW: Please see comments of Fr. Drinan who was asked by the Vatican to
resign his seat from the US Congress (excerpt at foot of this message).
==
You note that :<the Catholic church was around before capitalism as we know
it. It cannot now align with capitalism which would mean it was aligned
with the wrong side prior to then. If it does align with capitalism now,
what about the ills of capitalism? After all capitalism just killed a
100,000 people in Iraq>
I repeat my believe that the Church should stay out of partisan politics
...and Marxism, Leninism or Stalinism too. After all Stalinism killed 20
million people in Russia alone.
Look George, I believe I have said all I have to say about this matter save
to add that a distinct anti-"white" foundation runs through your posts.(I
would have understood it IF it was as a counter to some radical Rt. Wing
Aryan group was posting here) but I see in my file a distinct streak of
racism in your postings - whether it be re: John Paul II, the election of
new Pope (Benedict), St Francis Xavier, Mother Teresa or even the late
Archbishop Alan Basil de Lastic.
With that, I will stop here now. Yours will be the final word on this
matter.
Have a good day and a good rest of the week.
sincerely
jc
Meet the Press March 27, 2005
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7284978/
MR. RUSSERT: You are a Catholic priest, a Jesuit. You are also a member of
Congress, and then the pope told you, "Get out of politics." What was it
like when you received that order?
REV. DRINAN: Well, it's a little more complicated than that. They changed
canon law. I had the permission of Cardinal Cushing to run for Congress,
and he was enthusiastic about it. There were three or four Catholic priests
in politics in Latin America, and they were contentious, and they were now
revising canon law. So all that the pope did was to centralize the
decision. A bishop can't do it anymore, the Holy See has to do it.
And if you want to see some up-side to it, after I left Congress, I was in
Brazil, talking to some priests over there, and one priest said to me, "We
wept for you," but that if priests were allowed to enter the Congress all
over the world, we would have people who were very conservative, fascists,
the brothers of generals becoming elected in Latin America.
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