From: Antonio Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist ? What BULL.........!
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:07:28 +0530

Senhor Alfredo Francisco Antonio Luis
de VASCONCELOS CUNHA  e TAVARES

calls himself  1) an unabashed brahmin

Not  call myself, old chap. I am, have always been and always shall be.
I see no reason why I should burden myself with unnescessary guilt

who is  2) determinedly fighting the detriments of casteism in our society.


Quite true. Have always done so. No need to render satisfaction to anyone.

My record, in Goa, will always speak for itself and many will whole heartedly testify to the same: while the beneficiaries of my efforts, most laudably, the others
equally acerbically. Arch Bamons, from Loutulim inclusive, have branded me
a "traidor". But, bless their 'high-born' souls they have never cut me off socially, never refrained from inviting me to all their weddings and occasions of joy and
sorrow; and I am sure, would not have disdained my hand had I offered it to
one of their (our) fairborn.



para 1)  proclaims to be an abashed one, when all other bamons are quite
            unwilling to do so  in our society.

Whish Bamons, dear confused boy are "unwilling to do so?" and what/which
is "our society".

You must be quite explicit in such matters, in Goa. viz., 'a nossa gente', 'entre nós',
'boas familias' ad infinitum.


para 2) '' intention to fight determindedly the detriments of casteism in our society '' is rather doubtful. Why would Senhor Alfredo have the
the lesser mortals know that his grandmother hailed from the
Vasconcelos family and his mother from Cunha family ?

I don't understand which/what negative complex compels you to thus,
self-flagellantly, brand yourself "the lesser mortal".

And what has my ancestry to do anything with this?

And how can you purport to know lineage?

My late (maternal) grandmother was not Vasconcelos. She
was a daughter of the distinguished Sousas of Quitula, Aldona.

She, Willie's grandfather, Tom's (Hongkong) grandfather, quite a
a dozen of them were sibblings.

She married into the Vasconcelos Cunha family, from Ucassaim and
Arpora. I still get along very well with my Arpora relatives, from the noble
house of Sebasteao Pinto.

However, though I enjoy placing Goans by 'sobre nome', you, Antonio, I fail to.

Off hand I might have questioned if you were related to Lulu, but apparently
your not. You don't quite belong to Divar.

Incidentally Lulu was another of the crypto freedom fighters who never sought
acclamation.

He did used his political clout on one single occasion: To save the hide of his
intrepid brother-in-law, Mario Cabral e Sa, upon his maverick return (1962)
from Lisbon, from the wrath of the Azad Gomantak Dal's Prabhakar Sinari
& co.

         The question , therefore, should be :         '' Can a bamon ever
         become an anticasteist ? ''

         Antonio


Your question, my good Antonio, has been amply answered by our peers
during the past couple of days and, hopefully, you are ingesting the gist of
their unequivocal message.

Myself I compare your querry to the mini-skirt that neither hides nor reveals.

However, while the tiny rainment remains deliciously tantalizing you, my dear
fellow, tends to be a tad tedious.

Concluindo, Sr Antonio, sempre serei Vosso valente Ba'mmon,

Alfred de tal e tal, etc.
Stockholm, 2005-06-30

0046 8 759 6214



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