-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | | | | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | | | | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am shocked with the above vitriol and open racism > towards African-Americans above. > Mario opines: > Now, Santosh, this is what is called REAL abuse. I made no comment about anyone's race, only the economic conditions in much of Africa that deter African Americans from going back there. > George continues: > > African-Americans lag behind in EVERY positive > indicator in the USA. They have less wealth, less > income, less education, less property on average > than whites and most groups. The singlest biggest > reason is racism and discrimination against them. No > right-wing skewed statistic can deny that. > Mario replies: > The description above seems to deliberately misrepresent the facts, especially when compared to other countries. It is the tired old left wing attempt to demand a guarantee of outcomes instead of opportunities. > A few generations ago Africans were brought to the US as slaves, an abhorrent practice. Yet, today, 76% of African-Americans are classified as middle and high-income in this most competitive of countries. Some of the most powerful people in the US are African Americans, including several major corporate CEOS, cabinet ministers, Supreme Court and other judges, major city Mayors, and the most powerful and influential woman in the world right now, Condi Rice. > There has been no institutional discrimination against African Americans for several years now. In fact there are more legal protections than ever before. In addition, President Bush has almost doubled federal spending on poverty programs, poverty rates have declined since the 90s, black home ownership is at an all time high, and inner city schools are being made to impose higher standards, which helps many blacks. > George writes: > > No, I am not interested is equality of outcomes. I > am interested in equality of opportunity, not > just in name, but in practice. > Mario replies: > Equality of oucomes is exactly what you are demanding, George, when you compare the amazing progress made by African Americans not with how far they have come, but with other groups with a different history. Simply asserting that you want equality of opportunity is not enough to make it a fact anymore. That is a gross misrepresentation of the situation, and you know it.
