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Mervyn
Further to you post below, there is a well known saying that, in times of war, truth is the first casualty. In this context, it becomes clear that two rather different sets of info are coming out about world events generally, and about the situation in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran in particular.

Clearly, like you, I am reading and finding persuasive, media material (TV, radio, and newspapers) most of which sadly provides horrific news and analyses about the current two war zones. But seemingly quite opposite to such media, Mario finds material in Fox News, and the like, persuasive and very acceptable as stated so himself.

Although I have never read Fox News, this was recently dismissed here in some newspapers, as higly biased towards the right-wing. Yet, the paradox is that the common producer of Fox News in the USA, and TV Sky News in the UK is Rupert Murdock. I have found Sky News excellent and much more comprehensive than BBC. Therefore, the Murdoch enterprise, by way of example, simply slants news to satisfy different consumer tastes/orientations.

I happen to be persuaded by what I choose to read/see just as Mario is persuaded by what he chooses to read/see. Unfortunately, if there is no measure of scepticism about what both sides are reading/seeing there can be no dialogue as such. This is clearly evident in the markedly entrenched opposed positions on this Goanet thread.

Perhaps, (to the utter ire of Mario I'm sure), I will conclude by drawing on Marx, when he said that "capitalism is a conspiracy not by the free market [in relation to the media in this instance] but against it." Thus, Murdock (as with other media barons) the arch capitalist, makes his money by pushing the media line differently for people to buy and find acceptable. In the UK, he appears to push a left of centre line but in the USA a right of centre line. If this is true, then the antagonistic posters in this particular area on Goanet minimally reflect what is read and seen on TV as source material in different parts of the West and elsewhere. Clearly, global media capitalism may be having the better of us, as well as a field day in current circumstances. Just some quick thoughts.
Cornel
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mervyn Lobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re:How should the world deal with Iran?

--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Were it not for the sacrifice of these countries, 50
million Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq would still
be under the sadistic and brutal heel of Muslim
tyrants,

Mario,
The govts of Afghanistan and Iraq were installed by
the Americans. The Americans carefully vetted who
would be allowed to hold govt positions. These elected
puppets do not have any control over their respective
countries. In both countries, the leader of the govt
is nothing more than the mayor of the capital,
depending on American forces (both public and
mercenaries) for his survival. In Iraq, the puppet
leader does not have control over the road from his
residence to the airport.
In Afghanistan, opium production and export is up ten
fold since the Americans took over. In Iraq, oil
production and export is down.
To most of us, the people of those two countries are
"under the sadistic and brutal heel of AMERICAN
tyrants."
Mervyn 3



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