Teotonio
Many thanks for your interesting historical explanation. However, I still
want to figure out how much emigration, indeed if any, took place from among
Goan families of the really big landowners, especially in Salcete. I can't
see what economic reasons would motivate them to leave Goa for relative
uncertainty elsewhere. That some would have gone abroad for a higher
education is assumed. Also that, some of these may then have chosen to live
abroad, perhaps permanently is also assumed. The search for adventure is
also assumed in some cases and even the urge to get away from family
constraints---but surely not for economic reasons which largely impelled the
vast majority of the less well-off economically to seek work and a
reasonable living which was unavailable in Goa.
Just some random thoughts/exploration.
Cornel
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From: "Teotonio R. de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Re: How much emigration of the well to do took place
fromGoa?
Dear Cornel,
(1) Many joined seminaries and nunneries in Goa and elsewhere in India as
a
good path of social mobility. (2) It was a way of gaining good education
without much cost in the days of poor family resources under the
Portuguese
dispensation.
(3) The priests and nuns had to declare their «patrimony» / dowry on being
accepted for ordination or final vows in the religious order. The land
properties that entered this way into the Church possession were called
«main mort» in Europe and explained large land possessions of the Church.
The celibacy ensured their continuity in the Church. The extinction of
religious orders in some countries (including Portugal in 1759 and 1834)
were motivated by this factor.
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Subject: [Goanet] How much emigration of the well to do took place
from Goa?
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Most Goans are well aware of the outflow of many thousands of fellow
Goans,
over a long period, seeking economic betterment outside Goa. But did the
outflow include many from those families which owned large tracks of land
and controlled substantial resources accruing from such ownership? I
should
like to suggest that such 'landed gentry' had no impetus to leave Goa,
apart
from a few adventurous souls. Their prime concern was to stay in Goa, or
reasonably close, to safeguard their extensive properties for their
progeny.
Indeed, I have come across some reading about how wealthy families took
great pains to consolidate property by ensuring that some sons and
daughters
were directed into the Church as priests and nuns and others simply did
not
marry so that land did not get fragmented.
I am quite curious to discover how such a land ownership/consolidation
process operated among the wealthy landed class in Goa.
I hope we can discuss this issue without making it personal in any way
please.
Cornel
http://campussocial.ulusofona.pt/index_ingles.htm
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