Dears, The subject line above is a thread that started with my posting. 'Viva' in Goa colloquially means 'cheers'. One hears it at wedding functions...kazar, bikareachem jevonn, portovnnem, xim...mouthed by people who do not know a word of Portuguese and who do not know that Antonio de Oliviera Salazar walked this Earth, and if they do, give a damn about it. Salzar is not sponsoring their feni and food, anyway.
When people say "Viva" they say cheers to the Host and wish him long life. If I am not mistaken 'Viva' comes from the Latin word 'Vivo' meaning 'Life' as in 'In Vivo' or 'Living' experiments done in microbiology or macro biology. My signature on the Net is "Viva Goa". The Goan Overseas Association [G.O.A.]'s event every July end in Toronto is also called "Viva Goa". Colonial hang-over? Of all the people in the world, I did not expect my friend Fred/Rico to be caught up in this silly pre-1961 debate ;-( "Forty years back, few people said the term referring to the World Cup." Forty years back Fred/Rico must have been just growing out of his diapers...in Brazil ! How does he know with what connotation the term "Viva" was used in Goa or Portugal or Angola or Mocambique or Cabo Verde with or without Vinho Porto? How does it matter to us today?? Is 'Fontainhas' Lusostalgia? Is 'Garcia da Orta' Lusostalgia? Is Sao Joao Lusostalgia? Is the Mando Lusostalgia? Should we say Forca Subhash Velingkar or Rajendra Velingkar or Datta Palekar? Shall we form a 'Nagrik Kruti Samiti' [Citizens Action Committee] to fight the imaginary 'mesticos' that people of doubtful parentage see Gaunkars and Joneiros like us with a known and recorded [ in the Civil Registrar's, Communidade and Church records]cent percent native Indian geneology!??? Forca Portugal! [Viva Bacalhau, morte e salgado!] Atchung Deutscheland![The Pope is with you]. Allons enfants de la Franca![ Mr. P.G Kakodkar started the first branch of the 'State Bank of India' abroad in Paris; Mr. Manoharrai Sardessai and Remo studied there] Jai Italy [Sonia hamari hai, mere pappi Quartrochi] Viva Copa da Vida! Viva homme loco! Let us see which team will say 'Vini, Vidi, Vici" [Words in Latin said by Julius Ceasar, not in Portuguese by Salazar ;-( ] in Berlin. The numerologist's favourite, Brazil, has become World Cup sambar. Any Da Vinci Code to predict the Winner? VIVA GOA. Miguel Frederick "FN" Noronha wrote Sent: 04 July 2006 09:05 Technically yes. But the connotation varied. Forty years back, few people said the term referring to the World Cup. But, I guess, any excuse to return to Lusostalgia is good enough if that's your cup of tea. FN On 04/07/06, Paulo Colaco Dias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forty years ago, the word "Viva" meant exactly the same as today. > The meaning of the word did not change, except in some vivid minds... > > "Viva" means Cheers or best wishes. That is it. > > Paulo. _______________________________________________ Goanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
