--- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote: > > Dear Mario, > I so detest getting into slanging matches over the > Internet or in real life, because they don't resolve > anything. However, in answer to your question about > how people become "spokespersons", it is in the same > way someone in real life stands up for unfairness > and injustice and tells it like it is. > Mario responds: > Elisabeth, Your pretentious pretense that you can speak on behalf of 7,000 Goanetters, most of whom you don't even know, many of them devout religious people, is comical, with all due respect. > Slanging matches as you call them serve to set the record straight, especially when we have a small cabal of determined atheists that have launched a furious attack on the members of morally based organizations. > Elisabeth writes: > > I have not seen one scintilla of evidence that > Santosh or Cornel have been disrespectful of other > religions and yet you distort their views to > portray them as such. In much the same way as you > have taken it upon yourself to distort my views on > abortion, abstinence, monogamy and any other view > contrary to yours, to portray me as some Dionysian > disciple of the School of Hedonistic Pleasure. > Mario responds: > Elisabeth, I totally reject your straw man that I have distorted anything that Santosh and Cornel have said, and have responded to them elsewhere. On the other hand I have presented evidence of their distortions and misrepresentations of what I have said. Apparently you overlooked these, probably because you identify so strongly with their views. > Regarding your allegations that I have distorted your views on on abortion, abstinence and monogamy, I have listed below my observations and your underlying quotes. You may want to explain point by point how I have misunderstood your views: > a) MG: You support abortion on demand: EC: "Since I have been bestowed the credentials of "left-wing intellectual", and in keeping with them, I am fundamentally not opposed to abortion. It is the undisputed right of the women or at the very least the parents." > b) MG: But curiously not for female fetuses: EC: "Let me preface my post by saying that as the mother of a daughter I find female foetocide abhorrent to say the least. There are not enough poems to describe the loveliness of a daughter. > c) MG: You say abstinence for the unmarried is silly: EC: "As for your premise about sexual abstinence, I am curious to know why Conservatives are so bent on moralising and legislating every aspect of sex, when to have it (abstinence), with whom to have it (gay rights) and what to do if things go wrong abortion)."
d) MG: You encourage women to have casual sex: EC: "I'm so glad women are finally enjoying sex as freely and casually as men. It is only the human species that places constraints on sex under the guise of morality. > Elisabeth writes: > > Distorting people's views and trying to censor their > thought processes is the first step towards creating > dictatorships, in real life as well as on the > Internet. And people remaining silent in the wake of > such censorship is the first step in aiding and > abetting them. > Mario responds: > After you have explained point by point how I have distorted your views, based on your listed quotes, or others you can cite, perhaps you can cite some of my quotes to show where I have supported censorship of someone's thought processes as a means of creating a dictatorship on Goanet, and how you, Santosh and Cornel are going to lead the comical Goanet revolution against the dictatorship that I have in mind for this forum:-)) > In the meantime you say that you can speak for some 7,000 Goanetters, most of whom you don't even know, "...in the same way someone in real life stands up for unfairness and injustice and tells it like it is." > Sounds like I'm not the one with the "dictatorship complex", Elisabeth:-)) > _______________________________________________ Goanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
