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--- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote:
>
> Dear Basilio,
> A thoughtful post. I would also like to add the
> Gandhian tenet that one cannot elicit the truth by
> inflicting violence on their opponent. A tenet, on
> which the world's largest democracy was built.
>
Mario observes:
>
Elisabeth, you say, "...one cannot elicit the truth by
inflicting violence on their opponent." Sounds so
plausible, doesn't it?
>
Unfortunately, the real world is a lot more prickly
than that. For example, there you were, only a few
weeks ago, DEMANDING that India use deadly force
against the Islamo-fascist terrorists that had bombed
Mumbai, even if they had to cross international
boundaries to do so. Whether you meant it or not
remains a question because at the same time you were
commiserating with your philosophical soulmate,
Cornel, about Israel "missing opportunities to right
old wrongs" and demanding that Israel respond
"proportionately" to those seeking to "wipe them off
the map" using Marquis of Queensbury rules.
>
Doesn't the use of violent protest depend on whom the
opponent is? It worked great for Gandhian India
against the Brits and for African-American MLK, Jr.
against the Americans because they were dealing with
people with a somewhat guilty conscience.
>
Would the Gandhian tenet have worked against the
Nazis, Fascists and Communists of the WW-II era, or
against Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi and Pol Pot, or against Al
Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah and their patrons today,
none of whom displayed or display any conscience?
>
After all, are we forgetting that Neville Chamberlain
tried non-violence before WW-II, and Osama Bin Laden
openly and pretentiously declared war on the USA in
1998 at the height of Bill Clinton's appeasement
oriented administration?
>
The part that I have never understood is that those
who say they believe that violence doesn't solve
anything never take their message to those who
initiate violence, only to those who respond in
defense.
>
I asked Arun Gandhi this once and never heard back.
This was right after he went to Palestine to talk to
Hamas and the Palestinian militants - about ISRAEL'S
violence! Is this approach likely to work, other than
to make the PACIFIST feel good?
>
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