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I have not been following this thread. But happened to run into "Exposure of
misconceptions ... God fearing & evil" post by Elisabeth. The post appeared
logical, but deep down does not make sense. Elisabeth is making a logical
argument on (normal) human behavior based on a pathological / abnormal /
disease process. She uses Andrea Yates as her example. Andrea Yates' fear of
God (leading her to kill her five children) was pathological, and she was under
intensive medical care for her mental condition. Complicating her management
was she could not take her medications while she was pregnant.
The sad situation was Andrea embracing strange, new thoughts and ideas from
self-proclaimed authorities. (see below). This is not uncommon in today's world
where everyone can propound a theory with little qualifications or
substantiating data. Those with a predisposed mental condition are prime
victims of such "new thinking". Contrary to Andrea thinking, most religious
people love their God.
Yet following Elisabeth's (and atheist / agnostic) argument, all human thinking
appears physiological or pathologically driven. As she puts it, "To me all
"evil" is just mental dysfunction". And as a consequence man / women have no
capacity to think of free will. Is Elisabeth saying that humans are robots
driven by pre-designed and in-built control mechanisms? And the evil is the
dysfunction of these control mechanism? Some of this may be true in that,
there are still undiscovered chemical imbalances in the brain leading to
psychosis and other neurological problems. However society and medicine have
to deal with the issues NOW as we best see them.
Her theory below on Good and Evil is strange to me. Even Mother Teresa facing
many ills of this world did not claim that "evil emanates from the devil." To
me this sound a bit like Michael Woroniecki (see below).
Elisabeth appears to do what many Americans do. They use a solitary / rare
abnormal situation(s) to make generalizations, express opinions on and make
rules and regulations for the vast majority of normal people / situations.
Defense attorneys would love to have Elisabeth as an expert witness.
Kind Regards, GL
----------------------- Elizabeth Carvalho wrote:
Evil, as we traditionally define it, cannot exist if one is either an agnostic
or atheist. The concept of evil, is a corollary to the concept of God, hence
evil emanates from the devil and goodness from God.
Andrea Yates
Michael Woroniecki was a traveling minister from whom Rusty (Andrea's husband)
purchased their bus and whose religious views had influenced both Rusty and
Andrea. Rusty only agreed with some of Woroniecki's ideas but Andrea embraced
the extremist sermons. He preached, "the role of women is derived from the sin
of Eve and that bad mothers who are going to hell create bad children who will
go to hell." Andrea was so totally captivated by Woroniecki that Rusty and
Andrea's family grew concerned.
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