wrt this from me (JC): [I see nothing wrong with the above quoted from
Gilbert Lawrence. ...All he says (in effect) is that he (Gilbert Lawrence)
would IGNORE an atheist, as also someone who smokes, divorced, lives a
homosexual life style or cheats on his spouse.]
Santoshbab wrote: <I find Gilberts statement bigoted because of the
following reasons:
1. Under all democratic constitutions an atheist is no different from a
person of any other faith. He/She should not be treated differently from
others because of his/her religious beliefs or lack thereof.
1a. Nobody would dare to announce in this forum that he/she reacts to a
Catholic with "benign neglect".
2. The lumping of a smoker, a divorcee, a homosexual and an atheist with
someone who cheats on his/her spouse reveals how contemptuous and
discriminatory Gilbert is towards the former four types of individuals.
2a. Nobody would dare to claim in this forum that his "benign neglect"
towards a Catholic or a Goan is no different from that towards someone who
cheats on his/her spouse.>
=============== jc's response =====================
My dear Santoshbab,
re 1: I submit to you that NO democratic Constitution anywhere in the world
has ANY provision which prevents ANY one person from IGNORING another in his
private 'air space'. In fact, there is unlikely to be ANY provision in ANY
democratic Constitution which mandates that one CARES for the other. The
'duty of care' provision is strictly limited to family, those who have
caused reliance, and those with employment or contractual obligations.
The rest of us can very well go on IGNORING any person we wish to, as long
as we do not violate that person's rights. From the little I know, NO
individual has the right NOT to be IGNORED (except subject to the 'duty of
care' limitations).
Similarly, on a trip to the mall, you are quite within your rights to ignore
anyone you believe you do not wish to deal with.
I normally IGNORE desi politicians who turn up here for 'conferences' ON the
beach. I believe that I am within my rights to lump them up with con
artists.
re 1a: May be not .... but How are we to be sure that there aren't those who
in fact DO NOT practice what they are NOT preaching?
re 2: It appears that you did not read the last para of my (;-) post too
carefully. I am reposting it here for your perusal.
re 2a: May be nobody will claim here... but I am not so sure that Nobody
will behave in that fashion. Having lived in Poona, and having observed HOW
many of our desi folks actually treat Goans, Goan Catholics, West Indian
'east indians' and desis from the south (i.e. How North Indians treat South
Indians) or Afro descent men/women married to desis AND European women
married to Indian men .... I am not so sure that I will be as sure as I
believe you are.
BTW: European Men ...are different..... from what I have noticed. They do
not appear to be offered the 'benign neglect' treatment by folks from the
desh!
good wishes as usual
jc
now ...the paragraph from my previous post:
[I notice however that Gilbert (in his list above) has made no mention of
Pedophiles, Rapists, Sexual Molesters, Child Abusers, Con Artists,
Extortionists etc.
I trust that they are omitted because the 'list of folks to be IGNORED'
would be too long, and NOT because those folks are not part of Gilbert
Lawrence's benign neglect, and definitely not because those things are
better swept under the carpet?]
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