--- Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We had a Double-Bill header - Bill Clinton with his > charisma and his B'Care org > Mario asks: > Did anyone in Toronto think to ask Bill why he didn't use an iota of his charisma to address the problem of AIDS when he was US President for 8 long years, other than to make strenuous attempts to contract the virus himself? > You Gonadians were probably too blinded by his Gonadian-style charisma:-)) > Bosco writes: > > and Bill Gates with his fat wallet. Donated tons > of money to the cause - and its mostly going to > Africa. > Mario observes: > Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bill Gates earn his own money through unabashed capitalism, by changing the face of the world for the better and with it the right to do whatever he wanted to do with the proceeds. The last thing he deserves are snide comments by lefties about his fat wallet. Unlike the other guy, it didn't get fat by running his mouth, doing nothing about HIV/AIDS until recently, and chasing women. I won't even mention his shameless appeasement of the other bad guys that are killing innocents. > Bosco writes: > > Some responses: > > On Mon Aug 21 07:59:27 PDT 2006, Mario Goveia wrote: > > > Based on the rumor that you are an animal doctor, > > RESPONSE: Mario, Kevin Saldanha is veterinarian. > Mario responds: > Same thing. To the animals, they are "Doctor". So, what's your point? > Bosco writes: > > > could you please explain to the rest of us dummies > on Goanet > > RESPONSE: Don't be hard on yourself or fellow > Goanetters. There are no dummies here. > Mario responds: > Don't kid yourself. We see proof every single day. Have you read the excuses being made by the lefties for those who chase the HIV/AIDS virus? Have you read the "safe sex" baloney? > Bosco writes: > > > why abstinence and fidelity to a safe partner does > NOT work for anyone who actually tries it? > > RESPONSE: Because this is 2006 and the realities of > this world don't conform to abstinence and to a > lesser degree, fidelity. > Mario responds: > Oh, I see. You are also a Goanet proponent of the "safe sex" fantasy. > But I'll bet you YOU don't chase the HIV/AIDS virus. Aren't you being incredibly patronizing and contemptuous of those who do by insinuating they cannot do what YOU can do? So, what makes YOU so special and different in 2006. > Bosco writes: > > > One reason naive people are discouraged from this > common sense approach is the siren song by extreme > left wingers, and their drumbeat of insidious and > deadly messages that there is something > called "safe sex" outside the boundaries of common > sense. > > RESPONSE: Is this the best you can do? Are you now > going to classify medical and allied professionals > that work everyday with people infected with > HIV/AIDS into left-wing/right-wing. > Mario responds: > It's a lot better than what you are doing, playing word games and deflecting from the honest methods by which one can avoid contracting this deadly disease. > And, yes, it is a right wing/left wing issue, and the entire left wing approach which is based on blatant falsehoods about "safe sex" is what is causing this pandemic to skyrocket. > Bosco writes: > > > The fact is that countries like Uganda that > emphasize abstinence and monogamous relationships > are having far greater success in the war against > > HIV/AIDS > > RESPONSE: I can see why you raised the issue of > Uganda - the usual spin. Because of criticism of US > policy. > Mario responds: > Unlike most of the other countries who are just talking, deflecting the truth and making excuses, the US is actually doing something positive and honest about how to avoid contracting the disease and, in addition, pouring BILLIONS into helping those who already have the disease. > Bosco writes: > > "Some have said the US is largely to blame for the > shortages. According to Stephen Lewis, the UN > Special Envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa, "there is no > question that the condom crisis in Uganda is being > driven and exacerbated by PEPFAR and by the extreme > policies that the administration in the United > States is now pursuing". > Mario responds: > Shortage of CONDOMS? Why haven't the Gonadians filled the shortage, since they are not spending hardly anything on defense? Don't you all know how to make CONDOMS? Why does the US have to do everything? > How about the shortage of COMMON SENSE? Condoms are better than doing nothing, but it is a blatant falsehood to describe the use of condoms as "safe sex" because they have to be of the right material, used very carefully and consistently and THEN they are SAFER, never SAFE, against such a virus. > Those who chase the virus with such determination are the last people to take the best precautions. > Bosco writes: > > > The fact is that the only truly safe sex is > through abstinence and/or a monogamous relationship > with a safe partner. > > RESPONSE: I think Jose Colaco has provided a good > example where the above is null and void. > Mario responds: > Null and void? The same behavior that you and Jose engage in is "null and void" for some poor sod in India or Africa or China? > Jose hasn't refuted my contention in any context that makes any sense. Nor has he identified anything that is safer. As a physician he should know better than anyone that condoms are hardly "safe" in blocking such a virus 100%. > Bosco writes: > > > What these people's motives are in misguiding > millions of people is beyond the realm of logic. > > RESPONSE: Gratuituous comments that don't deserve a > response. > Mario responds: > This comment is about on par with all your others. My comment is far from gratuitous. The fact is that telling naive and mostly poor people in mostly poor countries that they can have "safe" sex with multiple and often anonymous partners is nothing short of promoting genocide. > Because of this permissive and callous and cynical left wing attitude, this pandemic is skyrocketing when EVERYONE with an ounce of brains is avoiding it for themselves, while putting millions of others in jeopardy with blatant falsehoods about "safe sex". >
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