--- Mario Goveia wrote: > > If a "mistake" is perceived in ANY post, it should > be questioned, even criticized, in a constructive > manner and a clarification obtained. There is no > excuse to rush to judgement using selected excerpts > from a post, ignoring other comments in the same > post, followed by a vicious verbal attack on the > writer. > --- Mervyn Lobo wrote: > Verbal attacks? The bottom line is that Gilbert's article was badly written, in fact incomprehensible to me. The subject however, was a serious one: cancer. I am glad that people took the time to point out and correct all the faults of that post. > Mario responds: > The fact that it was incomprehensible to you and not to several other readers is something you will have to figure out for yourself. > Because the subject was a serious one, being addressed by a Board Certified oncologist, it should have been taken seriously and questioned in a civil manner. Instead it was attacked for no apparent reason. > The conclusions in Gilbert's post were as follows. > "The current explanation for this (statistical significant) observation is that the surgery depresses the immune system, allowing the tumors to now behave and grow even more aggressively. Hence cancer surgery has undergone and is undergoing significant shift. >From big radical cancer surgery we have turned / flipped and are now into minimal / organ-saving cancer surgery. Laboratory studies on humans show that markers of the immune system are significantly suppressed after major surgery." > and > "Yet I encourage all patients to use every option available to improve their chance of being cured - especially approaches that have no side-effects and are cheap. I would not encourage patients to use these alternatives as a subsitute to proven treatments. These "yet proven" approaches should not be overlooked because of our lack of "current state of understanding"." > Here is how Santosh responded to Gilbert's conclusions shown above: > From, http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-September/048348.html > SH: "The post appended below propagates dangerous myths and misinformation regarding cancer treatment in this public forum." > MG: No such dangerous myth was being propagated as we can see from Gilbert's conclusions shown above. > Another example: > SH: "Here is a link to an article from the Mayo Clinic, debunking the myth that tumor spreads when it is exposed to air,..." > MG: No such myth had been suggested. Just the opposite. Gilbert had explained that tumors do not spread when exposed to air, which is what the Goan grandmothers thought was causing any such spread, but by a suppression of the immune system in his opinion. >
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