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Hi Santosh,
Every month in addition to my full-time clinical work of treating cancer
patients, I read at least three cancer journals. Next month is the annual
meeting of ASTRO - American Society of Therapeutic Radiology and Oncology.
Their book, with the abstracts of the proceedings of the meeting, is 720 pages
and contains 2903 abstracts. The scientific papers cover the fields of
Oncology, Tumor Biology,
Radiation Physics and new Technologies in cancer management. To facilitate the
review of all this material, my two colleagues and myself will each study a
third of the papers. Then we will share the pertinent information of the
different interesting and important scientific studies. As I review these
scientific papers, I try to remember all the specific details and references of
the material I read, including authors, institutions, country. etc..
It is obvious, by Sunith's own account of his profession, that the two of us
are living and working in very different worlds. And the more separate we keep
those environments, the better it will be for both of us. With all due
respects to him and others, a litany of disparaging words is a poor substitute
to intelligent writing or seeking honest facts. Disparaging sentences may
impress those with a flair for English. While the flair humors me, it does not
impress this supurlo Goenkar.
Do not take this personal, as this may or may not apply to you. Some academics
with a staff of assistants, postgraduate and undergraduate students, reportedly
put in a 24-7 work-schedule. This is 24 hours a week and 7 months a year. You
obviously have a lot of time on your hands to go "through the published
literature on animal experiments related to this issue, .... over the past 50
years." Or you may be telling us the truth, which is - you are an
under-worked scientist and gave your guinea-pigs some rest. This to review
fifty years of animal experimentation. This luxury of time unfortunately and
definitely does not apply to us, in clinical / private medical practice.
Dr. Jayant's reply in response to my original post speaks for itself -
"Straight from the horse's mouth". This is not withstanding your statement
below; and you placing Jayant's post as a response to mine. As has been
repeatedly demonstrated on this topic, Mario - a cancer victim and survivor,
had a much better grasp and understanding of my posts than the self-acclaimed
English scholars and science academics. And Mario was not the exception. Given
the above reading requirements to maintain our proficiency and skill in our
daily work, please drop your attitude that you are the only goanetter that
understands science. And as it applies to the rest of us, you can be placed in
the classical (medical and other professional) dictum, "When one does not use
it (the knowledge and skill), one looses it". And to repeat myself, one does
not get it (the knowledge and skill), from www (world wide web) or being net
savvy.
So, it is OK to accept that you are no authority on every aspect of science.
In fact to accept your limitation will enhance your standing in the specific
area of your expertise. It is laughable to claim, that you went "through the
published literature on animal experiments related to this issue, .... over the
past 50 years." Likely your five cronies on goanet will believe that, and will
always be fooled. And they will come to your defense, with some scurrilous
writings. But not all goanetters can be fooled all the time.
Instead of zapping / expressing your opinions (with little facts) on every
science (and non-science) under the sun, why don't you educate us on the
neuro-science of Alzheimer, Autism, Parkinson Disorder, attention deficit
syndrome, hyperactive children, etc.? Or perhaps these situations apply to
humans, and may not be within your preview of expertise. And hence your
reluctance to cover these topics may be understandable.
I have no time right now to search my scientific archives and do your's or
somebody else's scut work. Now if you gave me a grant to hire a student to do
your research, you would have your answer a lot earlier. Your or Sunith's
ignorance is not my responsibility. If anybody does not wish to accept the
findings and the explanations that I reported, please feel free to do so. If
Santosh and Sunith are very keen in getting their study, please, 'put your
money where your mouth is'.
As in the case of Goa's inquisition, when I come across interesting facts and
further validating proof related to my prior writings, I will gladly forward
them to this bulletin board. Stay tuned.:=))
In the meantime, you can comment with some facts of your own. For starters,
since you have the time, why do not you summarize the experiment that your
friend Jayant posted - and Jayant's explanation why the grandmother's kani may
have some truth - i.e. Surgery may have deleterious effects by STIMULATING the
cancer cells with the release of VEGF (Vascular Endothelial Growth Factors) and
increasing blood circulation in the tumor (this is a simplified version in
plain English). Is Jayant's English also too much for you and Sunith to
understand? Was his post also badly written? Or, is it more likely, that you
do not understand what he wrote in plain English? If you both want to know the
facts, please be prepared to do the work yourselves, rather than sit on your
behind and pound the key-board. I find it humorous that while the suppression
of immunity is a legitimate rationale supported by many human studies, it was
Santosh who ran with this explanation repeatedly directing
the goa
net readers to the many posts / net-papers on this topic.
I hope this can be the last post on this thread which has been requested by the
moderators and others. Now even an English professor does not understand or
does not get it in plain English. Yet, let me apologize to the goanetters for
this issue being dragged to settle other private scores.
Regards, GL
----------- Santosh Helekar
I have gone through the published literature on animal experiments related to
this issue, and have discussed it at length with Jayant Vaidya. Neither he nor
I have found any research paper containing the description provided by Gilbert
over the past 50 years, let alone a few years ago, as he claimed.
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