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This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jason, As a hockey goal-keeper and a record-keeper of Goan Hockey feats (I had to do this to keep up my Goenkar Podhi and Patrade - Pride and Prejudice that is - against my East Indian and Mangalorean buddies), I think I may be able to help you out as most of the guys on the list were either my contemporaries or those of my cousin John Correia. I believe all those on your list below are Goans except: 1. Center Halves Leslie Claudius who was an Anglo-Indian from Calcutta and his son the late Bobby Claudius. I played hockey with Bobby in Kharagpur, West Bengal before his untimely death in a traffic accident in Calcutta in the late 70s. He was a gem of a person ! 2. Goalkeepers Charles Cornelius and Manuel Fredricks (Services) were from South India 3. Goalkeeper Leslie Fernandes from the victorious 1975 WC team may have been a Mangalorean - I am not sure 4. Goalkeeper Romeo James (Services) who was my roommate in the 1979 Camp at NIS Patiala was a Punjabi Christian 5. Goalkeeper Mark Patterson of Air India was the son of the famous goalkeeper Ted Patterson of Air India was an Anglo Indian from Bombay. Ted played for Air India when I played for Indian Airlines in Bombay in the late 70s. 6. Jude Felix was from Bangalore 7. I am not sure about Edward Aloysius - I think he was also from South India 8. Gavin Ferreira may be an East Indian - I am not sure, I think his father was also a famous hockey player. 9. Viren Rasquinha who was also an academic rank holder in the SSC or HSC of the Maharashtra Board is a Mangalorean (from Bandra, Bombay) as is current India goalkeeper Adrian D'Souza and former India goalkeeper Jude Menezes. Its been over 10 years since the Mangloreans took over the coveted job of India Hockey Goalkeeper from us Goans and most of our Goenkars have not even realized it ! GOANS 10. If I am not mistaken, Reggie Rodrigues was a prolific goal scoring center-forward and was a Goan from Pakistan. 11. Like many others (Leo Pinto, Cedric Pereira, Viren Rasquinha, Joaquim Carvalho, Marcellus Gomes, etc) center-forward Francis D'Mello (who is a Goan) is from my school St. Stanislaus, Bandra. He was still in high school when he was selected to represent India in the First World Cup in Barcelona in 1971. I dont think India has had a school boy hockey international after Francis D'Mello. 12. Rui Saldanha (center-half for England in 1972 Munich Olympics) and Trevour Fernandes (center-forward for USA in 1984 Los Angeles Olympics) are also Goans. I am shocked and surprised that your list does not include the great goalkepers Cedric Pereira (1972 Munich Olympics - ex Anjuna/Bandra) and Leo Pinto (from Camarcazana, Mapusa and Bandra, Bombay) - He was the genesis of the Great Goan Goalkeeper tradition having played in the 1948 Olympics and Dr. Vece Paes (from my village of Velim, Goa and Calcutta) who represented India and won a Bronze Medal in the 1972 Munich Olympics - His son Leander won a bronze medal in the 1996 Atlanta Olympics and two golds in the 2006 Doha Asiad in tennis and with Dhyan Chand / Ashok Kumar, they are the only father/son Olympic Medallists in India Sports History. Your list also excludes my Bandra neighbour goalkeeper Cedric D'Souza (of Uccassaim, Goa) who also coached the Indian team recently. 1980 Olympic gold medallist center half Joaquim Carvalho is another Goan missing from your list. I am copying my aging coaches Balbir Singh Sr. and Leo Pinto on this note - perhaps they may be able to add to your list. Additionally, you may note that in 1948, Abel DeSales (of Western Railway) a Goan from Bandra was also one of the top hockey goalkeepers in India and Leo's rival for the India goal. Unfortunately he did not play for India. One of the reasons why you are not able to dig up the records of Goan hockey players so easily is because Goans are a very parochial community. They only care if the sportsmen are from their parts of Bardez or Salcete or from their village or sub-village in Goa and do not recognize the feats of our other fellow Goenkars ! Also hockey is often given step-child treatment in soccer-crazy Goa although we have more Goan hockey players who have won international medals donning India colors, than soccer players ! We need to get over these issues for the greater glory of Goa and Goan sports ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, ex Velim in South Goa, now INDIAN Harbour Beach, Florida. From: "Jason Monserrate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Help with Goan Hockey and other sports Hi Is there someone out there who can confirm which of following hockey players have Goan roots? OL - Olympics, WC - World Cup, AG - Asian Games Walter D'Souza - 1948 OL Maxie Vaz 1948 OL Leslie Claudius 1948 OL Reginald Rodrigues 1948 OL Charles Cornelius 1971 WC Francis D'Mello 1971 WC Manuel Fredricks 1978 WC Robert Claudius 1978 WC Leslie Fernandes 1974 AG John Correia 1974 AG Olympio Fernandes 1978 AG Romeo James 1982 AG John Fernandes 1990 AG Mark Patterson 1990 AG Daryll D'Souza 1990 AG Jude Felix 1990 WC Edgar Mascarenhas 1990 WC Aloysius Edward 1994 WC Edward Aranha 1994 WC Gavin Ferreira 1994 WC Bipin Fernandez 2002 WC Viren Rasquinha 2004 OL What is perhaps more appalling than the lack of recognition these heroes have been given, is the lack of data available on their feats. It is obvious that the exploits of past Goans will go unnoticed if not properly documented for future reference. The lack of awareness about Goan sportsmen is baffling, to say the least. We have former hockey olympians who have gone on to represent not just India but other countries as well. We have so many distinguished sportsmen and sportswomen in so many sports. The least that can be done is preserve data online. With minimal effort and cost, we could help save the information forever. I was thinking of setting up a blog, where important information can be compiled and archived. Do you think this will be a good idea or would a wiki be better? (i was thinking the blog could be somewhat similiar to what FN has with goabooks). Also, the work needs to be collaborative and due credits must be given to the source of the information. Anyone out there, interested in helping research and compile data during your free time? ...... Thanks in advance Jason