Hi Sunith
Thanks for your clarification. Indeed, for a moment I had forgotten about those who benefit caste wise (largely financially) from being underdogs in the positive
discrimination/reservation scheme of things in India.

However, you may have overlooked one key question I asked you and therefore repeat it: "Am I to assume that you stand for those who do not wish to keep the caste divide alive?"

On some other points, I am not sure I would agree with your interpretation of Selma's 'motives' to "keep the caste divide alive." Rather, I welcome her stance as highlighting Catholic Goan hypocrisy on caste as strongly and consistently as I do. This is because many with a caste mentality or mind-set would prefer to fudge the issue or pretend that caste belief disappeared a while ago when in fact it is quite alive and thriving in Goa notwithstanding much undermining of it economically.

My own unassailable position, reiterated many times is that, the racist evil of caste among Catholic Goans has to be exposed first within the community and then worldwide. I therefore hope that Fr Loiola is reading this in relation to my letter to him of 29/1/07 and the awaited reply on Goanet. It is only when this evil in people's hearts and minds is confronted, that it can necessarily be addressed openly.

With some similarity in the USA, this happened when  racism in the UK was
confronted and addressed (even if imperfectly), over at least three decades,
to reach the point where people now acknowledge it openly whenever it shows
its ugly head and repudiate it unreservedly as in the recent classic case of Jade Goody and Shilpa Shetty on UK television, also seen across the world.

I have a mission, sooner rather than later, to see similar enlightenment occurring among Catholic Goans in terms of their insidious, deeply entrenched, but totally untenable racist caste beliefs.

As to your focus on Carmo's position on the caste divide, there are clues in his posts about his expressed attraction for something he referred to as "caste hybridity." This may be consequent to marriage links that are also clearly projected, by him, not necessarily charitably, on others within his wide family 'clan'!

Warm regards and thanks for keeping up with this debate.
Cornel
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunith Velho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:22 PM
Subject: Whats so great about Fundacao Parties/reply to Cornel
Cornel,
The upper castes all over India want to keep the divide alive for obvious
reasons.
India's illogical form of affirmative action(read reservations) has
ensured that the erstwhile lower castes have a reason to perpetuate this
ugly practice.
After all if you convert to religions that do not provide official
sanction for caste such as Buddhism or Christianity, you lose the right to
benefits via the reservation route. Regardless of the fact that your
economic situation remains the same.
Strangely there is another group of people (mostly on this forum) who seek
to keep the divide alive for no apparent reason. They are the kind who
introduce words like Bamon, Chardo, Kharvi, Gulfie and Shippie into every
debate. I think Selma and Carmo have a lifetime membership to this
peculiar society.


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