On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Joao Barros-Pereira <[email protected]> 
wrote:

JB-P 1: "Had we in 1947 sought to get rid of the Portuguese colonialists, as we 
did the British colonialists, the endless debate on the issue of annexation or 
liberation of Goa would not exist as it would be seen today as a fight against 
colonialism, Portuguese and British."

jc 1: I am not really sure that this contrived 1947 question is of benefit to 
any thinking Goan. What next ....1865 revisited? And why were there issues with 
Hyderabad and Junagadh? Were the Portuguese involved in Kashmir too?

I submit that there is NO reasonable Annexation v Liberation debate. There is 
no doubt that Goa was annexed and there is no doubt that Goa was liberated from 
the Portuguese.

The on-going, seemingly never ending debate would be a non-starter IF in 
1961/62 Goans were given the freedom to exercise the right to 
self-determination. It is my personal belief that at that time, Goans would 
have opted to join India.

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JB-P 2: The phrase, however, "to sleep with" was famously highlighted by 
President Clinton, who said that he had not slept with Monica Lewinsky when he 
was cross examined about his relationship with her. The phrase, he said, 
usually means having had sex which he had not had with Monica. Today, the whole 
world knows he didn't sleep a wink.

jc 2: I suggest that those among us who use terms, even as common as 'cross 
examined' and 'had sex', make the effort to ascertain if their usage is 
accurate. 

WHY would Clinton be 'cross-examined' in that case? Was he not the defendant? I 
will not comment further on the case because it is of zero benefit to the case 
wrt Goa and also because I believe that Joao is confusing the issue relating to 
'Sex' in the case.

jc

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