What you say below is a strange argument. You're so convinced that your own perspective on copyright and plagarism is flawless that you refuse to see another point of view, and instead ascribe motives to people who think differently from you!
This despite the fact that one should raise questions the veracity of your interpretation of "self-plagarism", the logic behind self-publishing, the options to copyright, and why the CreativeCommons project turns copyright "on its head" as it was ... by using the concept to allow for greater shareability. On 24/03/07, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I fail to understand why you and Gilbert are trying to find all kinds of ways to defend plagiarism. Have you plagiarized anything in the past?
You are twisting the issue. To say I "defend plagiarism" is to do violence to my thoughts and arguments. I have just: * Argued against the idea of "intellectual property" quoting Doc Searls http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-research-net/message/1720 * Said I don't want to violate other's copyright, but feel that knowledge should be shared voluntarily and readily (and will do so myself) and that we should allow others to build on our knowledge, as we do on the knowledge of others. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goa-research-net/message/1718 * I would not make a big issue of it if someone quoted my work with or without credit. (At most, I might send a request for credit... no 'cease-and-desist' stuff) http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-March/055515.html * Am on the lookout for business models that allow the sharing of knowledge and surviving/thriving. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-March/055515.html * We need to recognise that copyright laws (and patents) have reached a ridiculous point-of-no-return. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-March/055541.html * The Creative Commons ideals have influenced a great many project... http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-March/055553.html (Flickr, Internet Archive, Wikimedia Commons, Ourmedia, deviantART, ccMixter, Public Library of Science, Proceedings of Science, MIT OpenCourseWare, Clinical Skills Online, MIMA Music, Wikinews, Wikitravel, Memory Alpha, Uncyclopedia, Jurispedia, Microsoft Developer Network and many other wikis, Groklaw, This Week in Tech, Rocketboom, Jet Set Show, newspaperindex, 20 minutes newspaper, OpenStreetMap, Jamendo, BeatPick, Revver, GarageBand.com, blip.tv, Star Wreck, Elephants Dream, Bumperactive) Source: Wikipedia.
BTW, it is you who has fallen into the trap. I have already commented on self-plagiarism.
Yeah, but your comment is way of target. You can't just say "I think" and interprete an idea in any which way you choose. Both you and Jose have an understanding of "self-plagiarism" which goes counter to the factual position of the concept as it stands today. Please see: * http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-March/055576.html (Santosh) * http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-March/055580.html (JC) If there is any reason for my attempt to refute you on this issue, it is just because we seem to be accepting as the Gospel truth ideas which are contestiable and not as "logical" as made out to be. (And, even the Gospel is debatable these days.) As I alleged elsewhere, it seemed to be that the otherwise rationalistic Dr Helecar accepts Science as his religion, a God which cannot be questioned. Now, it appears that he also places Copyright and concepts about plagarism on an equally high altar, never to be debated, and making suspect the potential for salvation of anyone who differs on interpreting these issues.... Thanks, and peace. FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com What bloggers are saying about Goa: http://planet.goa-india.org/
