In response to Gilbert Lawrence. Gilbert's points are as 1-10; JC's
response's as JC 1- JC10
On 24/03/07, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1: Thank you much for your very studied responses on Goanet on presentations
and publications of medical information. I read them carefully.
JC 1: Grateful and delighted
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2: I noticed the shift in your standards as I proceeded reading along.
First you claimed that references are needed for everything, including oral
presentation (by your medical students). On questions about YOUR teaching
presentations, you claim needing references only on PUBLISHED material.
JC 2: I remind you that "research papers' which are READ / PRESENTED at peer
review (Friday) Conferences are considered PUBLISHED. My response was in
direct response to your query as to what we expect our residents to do.
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3: I reviewed YOUR web site TGF. Under "Advisory" about travel to Goa, I
read the following which is "cut and paste". I reproduced only the medical
information, since this was WRITTEN BY YOU, with your name and degree at the
bottom. I noticed there were NO REFERENCES in the body of the text or a
listing at the end of the presentation.
JC 3: I agree with you. There are NO references. It is there for the
attention of Travelers. It contains exactly the advice I would give & have
given in my private office; knowledge which I am expected to possess because
of my formal education, qualifications and work experience. The issues here
is PLAGIARISM.
Are you suggesting to me that the "stuff'" which is in your AMCHI KHOBOR
booklet (cost $5 plus postage) is NOT plagiarised?
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4: Do I presume that the following statements are ALL YOUR PERSONAL
"research and original findings?" Some are recommendations - by who?
JC 4: "What findings" are you referring to. Identify them and I will
explain. I am not very good at explaining a vacuum
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5: Are your opinions and conclusions in / on Goa backed by any studies?
Should you not be providing a list of references (credit the sources) for
the many definitive statements and scientific recommendation? Or is this
one standard for you and another for other supurlo Goenkars like me?
JC 5: Please return to the topic of Plagiarism; Back up for research is an
entirely different topic
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6: Or would you say that the TGF web site is not "published material"?
JC 6: It is as published as a blog. It is also quite Free. Did you pay for
access?
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7: And if you credit the source, according to Santosh, you can 'plagiarize'.
But how does one know, if the source / reference is not given? Perhaps now
we know why some 'insist' to otehrs on reference, while not doing it
themselves.:=))
JC 7: I disagree with that premise. Please look up the definition of the
word plagiarize. I submit that one does NOT plagiarize if one "credits the
source.
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8: I am not claiming this presentation on your web site is wrong or the
information is fraudulent. I think it is helpful. It is just that, you are
not following what you so righteously insist others should do. Are you a
self-righteous moralist preaching to others? This is my last post on this
tet-a-tet.
JC 8: Thanks ....I am normally not accustomed to 'tet-a-tet'; - whatever
that is.
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9: On this Saturday while I am on call, I really enjoyed doing some research
on your research, which was researching somebody else's research.:=)) :=))
JC 9: I am glad for you. One must enjoy something ...after all
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10: Kind Regards, GL
JC 10: and the same from here ...always, JC
From TGF WEB SITE - travel advisory to Goa
