Dear Brothers & Sisters, reading this. As i read through the write up whch appeared on my laptop page, tears rolled in mine eyes. Hence i thought id take some time to share the few following thoughts:
So what you are saying is that the inquisition did happen, but the details were not *that bad*? Is that what we are saying here? A couple of Jewish businesses burnt, the Jesuits slitting the throats of children? not that bad? it was just a "holy purging", 3000 Jews including Garcia de Orta's sister being killed in Ela, Old Goa was an exaggeration! Was it? Even One Hindu temple burnt, or one mosque destroyed, even one Jewish family destroyed, is no big deal? As long as we can defend Our Holy Catholic Church, yes? Myth-ification is an amazing manner how to deny the past facts!! Just as how the Gopakapatnam Harbour has been left to ruins, so also as the Augustinian tower (which was actually an ancient synagogue) was been destroyed, just as Curca Springs is left to ruins. This is all mythification!! Dear Fellow researchers, I greatly congratulate your studies that you have done, however i'd suggest if i may, that you continue your research, if possible personal research, by visiting the ancient sites, and you will see the glorious hidden truths revealed there. Indeed Goa was a Glorious place EVEN before the Portuguese settled here! Hence, can we agree? The Inquisition was a very Sad & Dark Period in the Roman Church, a very painful period, where, Jesus our Lord, asked Peter to put his sword into his cover, when he cut off the soldier's ear, Jesus NEVER propagated ANY Violence, yet the Roman Pope had the audacity to declare the EVIL Inquisition! And our Beloved Saint Francis Xavier CALLED for it!! This FACT is historical, and documented, and cannot be revised, to meet the whims and fancies of the Goan bishop and his clan. However, we pray that the truth is revealed, and people WILL realize the Lies that they have been forced to believe all through these years. We pray, that when the Church Sincerely Apologises, THEN, they will receive True Forgiveness from Christ Himself, for Tarnishing His Holy Name. Hence i remember Gandhi's words, "I love Christ, but i hate christians." Till Then......... best regards, Adrian Simoes Managing Director The Judeo-Christian Heritage of the West Coast of India. Panjim - Goa On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Santosh Helekar <[email protected]> wrote: > Priolkar's, Dellon's and Buchanan's accounts are well-reasoned descriptions > of the inquisition. Buchanan's account in particular is a fairly objective > and even-handed account. For example, he also describes all the fanatical > suicides and sacrificial killings of the Hindus in gory detail. Those who > are trying to malign these authors and to whitewash all the atrocities have > a self-serving apologist religious agenda of their own. > > Cheers, > > Santosh > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Gabe Menezes [email protected] > [seculargoa] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > By Frederick Noronha > > > > It’s 2012 and Vincent and Martha are falling “instantly in love with > > Goa”. Four sentences into Ashwin Sanghi’s The Rozabal Line (Westland, > > 2008), we encounter the Inquisition. > > > > Predictable? Like few others, the Inquisition motif is one which comes up > > repeatedly in writing on Goa. It does so once more in “India’s > bestselling > > theological thriller”. This has happened with so much regularity, that we > > just seem to take it as a given now. > > > > From novels to works in Konkani, translated texts, video CDs and even > > official accounts of Goa’s history, this story is writ large. But how > much > > of this is really true? > > > > You get a hint of something not quite being right if search up for > > information on the Black Legend. Put briefly, the Black Legend is a style > > of writing – or propaganda – that demonises the Spanish Empire, its > people > > and its culture. As if to suggest that the blackest were the Spaniards, > > while other colonial empires were rather pleasantly-run enterprises. > > > > For understandable reasons, this at times extends to the Portuguese too. > > Spanish history gets projected in a deeply negative light; the reasons > why > > this happens is interesting in itself but beyond the scope of this > > discussion. Suffice to note that depicting exaggerated versions of the > > Spanish Inquisition form a key part of this. > > > > Ever since Priolkar’s book on the subject (The Goa Inquisition: The > > Terrible Tribunal for the East), published thrice by a State university, > a > > Hindutva publishing house, and locally, the first time being just before > > Liberation, this motif is taken for granted in Goa too. Expectedly, over > > time, it gets new life of its own. > > > > Scratch a bit below the surface, and it becomes obvious that there’s a > > whole different reality out there. Globally too, questions are being > asked. > > One place to start unwrapping the knotted ball of thread and > mythification > > is perhaps a 1994 BBC documentary on the myths of the Spanish > Inquisition. > > See it online at http://bit.ly/BBCSpIn. > > > > Turns out from a detailed and closer look that not only were accounts of > > the Inquisition grossly exaggerated, but there was in fact also a whole > > industry of creating these myths that survived centuries. It was promoted > > by various quarters, from manifold reasons. > > > > What one learn in the above documentary would go so much against what one > > is used to believing, that it takes quite some time for the reality to > soak > > it in. > > > > In Goa itself, the accounts of the Inquisition depend largely on the > > versions of Buchanan (1766-1815) and Dellon (1650-1710). The first was a > > Scottish theologian, whose biases about faiths other than his own have > been > > documented elsewhere. > > > > David Higgs (in The Inquisition in Late Eighteenth-Century Goa, in Goa; > > Continuity and Change, edited by Narendra K Wagle and George Coelho, > > University of Toronto 1995) gives us another perspective when he > > acknowledges the role Priolkar’s 1961 study played in shaping the debate. > > > > Higgs writes: “Priolkar drew heavily on secondary sources in his sketch > on > > the Goan Inquisition, especially on a late seventeenth-century Frenchman, > > Gabriel Dellon, arrested in Goa, whose case was made famous by the > > denunciatory account of his experiences published after his return from > > France”. > > > > He calls Dellon’s version an “exuberant account of his misfortunes”. > > Likewise, Higgs points out, Priolkar also used the “over-imaginative > > account of a British clergyman, C Buchanan, who wanted to think that what > > he was not allowed to see in Old Goa in 1808 was what Dellon inveighed at > > more than a century earlier”. > > > > From the time these accounts first came about, they were taken to by a > > number of diverse quarters. For different reasons. Jansenists, > Gallicians, > > pro-Protestants and anti-Spanish Frenchmen highlighted such writing. > Dellon > > has himself been identified with pro-Calvanism and the Gallician policy > of > > Louis XIV, to whose court Dellon had been admitted. > > > > Since then, the mythification of the Inquisition has been used to push > > 21st century communal battles. Perspectives from Judaism and Hindutva > also > > take the debate along a road of its own. > > > > But it is not only the world of fiction that is shaped by the assiduously > > created Inquisition lore. > > > > When former top cop Julio Ribeiro voices alarm over the communalisation > of > > Indian public life, someone in cyberspace thinks it fit to remind him: > “We, > > perforce, have to talk about the utterly violent and murderous record of > > Christianity in India, with specific reference to the Portuguese > > Inquisition in Goa”. > > > > In a recent online thread, the noted Indo-Portuguese historian Teotonio R > > de Souza spoke out publicly about how his writing on the Inquisition had > > been mauled and manipulated, to project a certain vision. > > > > He complained of his writing being hijacked, and text which he never > wrote > > added under his name. Commented Souza: “One first paragraph is drawn from > > an article of mine in a book edited by M D David, and the rest is all > added > > from elsewhere and with orthographic and syntax mistakes galore. That > > article is cited as footnote no 25 for the text on The Goa Inquisition in > > the Wikipedia”. > > > > It has survived in cyberspace over many years, and all attempts to get > the > > situation corrected have failed so far. He added: “I am quoted from a > book > > (without date) that I never wrote… it has misled many!” > > > > Such issues play a crucial role in shaping the debate and deciding on our > > ‘reality’. Unlike its counterpart in the Vatican, the Church in Goa seems > > unwilling to open up this debate, to separate the wheat from the chaff, > to > > accept what it needs to, and to effectively challenge all the > mythification. > > > > http://www.navhindtimes.in/the-inquisition-lore/-- > > DEV BOREM KORUM > > > > Gabe Menezes. > > > > > > __._,_.___ > > ------------------------------ > > Posted by: Gabe Menezes <[email protected]> > > ------------------------------ > > Reply via web post > > < > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/seculargoa/conversations/messages/6814;_ylc=X3oDMTJwc3BuZ2pjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzY5NDIyMjgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1ODM4MDc2BG1zZ0lkAzY4MTQEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxNDI3NjMwNTE1?act=reply&messageNum=6814 > > > > • Reply to sender > > <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20The%20Inquisition%20Lore> • > > Reply to group > > <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20The%20Inquisition%20Lore> • > Start > > a New Topic > > < > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/seculargoa/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZW03Z21xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzY5NDIyMjgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1ODM4MDc2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQyNzYzMDUxNQ-- > > > > • Messages in this topic > > < > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/seculargoa/conversations/topics/6814;_ylc=X3oDMTM0NXRkNTByBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzY5NDIyMjgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1ODM4MDc2BG1zZ0lkAzY4MTQEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxNDI3NjMwNTE1BHRwY0lkAzY4MTQ- > > > > (1) > > Visit Your Group > > < > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/seculargoa/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJlc2wxb3BoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzY5NDIyMjgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1ODM4MDc2BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQyNzYzMDUxNQ-- > > > > > > > > [image: Yahoo! 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