This video may be of some interest.

Doug Shifter, a livery car driver committed suice outside the gates of
New York City Hall. Founded in 1998, NYTWA is a taxi workers union
which represents over 19,000 NYC taxicab drivers. The #nytwa logo
which appears at 0:13 was designed by me. Considering it was
essentially design by committee (socialism + democratic), it turned
out well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdW9iwwp54

—Venantius J Pinto



On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Roland Francis
<roland.fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Something like the Netherlands happened in Toronto except that the experiment 
> here was successful and resulted in what was intended.
>
> Those who had Taxi licences rented them to drivers at $3,000 a month per day 
> shift. Night shift went for $1,500 giving the owner a cool 4.5Gs for just an 
> investment in a vehicle. Drivers struggled to make a living beyond what they 
> had to give to the owner. Owners sat doing nothing by merely applying and 
> getting a licence in a 10 year wait. The licences were worth $250,000 on the 
> open market.
>
> Drivers protested and the city came up with a parallel called the Ambassador 
> Taxi system where the city issued licences for a small amount but mandated 
> that the licensee must also be the actual driver.
>
> This increased the taxis on the road substantially but with the city growing, 
> business was there for all.
>
> And then came Uber with their bold dash into the market. The city on the 
> pressure from the taxi system refused to licence Uber but Uber just plied on 
> the roads and paid the fines when they were ticketed, until they went to 
> court who supported their right to operate.
>
> The taxis took a massive hit to their business but clever taxi drivers just 
> took the night shift and drove Uber during a few hours of the day, making 
> more money than they ever did with taxis.
>
> The old licence holders must have seen their 250k asset take a massive hit 
> but being investors rather than poor drivers, it probably didn’t critically 
> matter to them.
>
> Seeing Uber walk away with a large size of the cake, Lyft is pushing to enter.
>
> As far as passengers are concerned, most younger people take Uber, those for 
> whom money doesn’t matter, still take the orange cabs who are constantly 
> improving their service and their vehicles to Uber level but can’t compete in 
> price.
>
> No Goa-like situation here.
>
> Roland Francis
> Toronto.
>
>
>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 2:02 PM, Patrice Riemens <patr...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ever since I have been in Goa, back in the 90s and early 00s, the local taxi 
>> situation has become a kind of exemplary case for me. And when in the 
>> Netherlands, the governemnt, bent on putting 'the magic of the market' to 
>> work, deregulated the taxi market, this resulted in Amsterdam in taxi wars, 
>> hundreds of taxi drivers losing their old age pension (their license, 
>> purchased for a lakh Guilders and intended for resale on retirement, became 
>> worthless overnight), a collapse of the quality of the service, as hundred 
>> inexperienced drivers hit the road with ramshackle vehicles, the 
>> transformation of the self-serving taxi unions into full-fledged mafias, and 
>> hardly anything has improved ever since, despite an unbelievable of ad-hoc, 
>> piecemeal remedial ordinances being enacted.
>>
>> The reason: unbridled competition, putting many more taxis on the road than 
>> needed, and fares not falling but rising, steeply, as cabbies try to milk 
>> out customers to the max when ever they get one. This is why I said that 
>> Amsterdam taxis were suffering from the 'Goa syndrome' ...
>>
>> In Firenze (Italy) where I live now, taxis are strictly regulated, fares set 
>> by the authorities (after negotiations with the taxi unions), taximeters 
>> mandatory and regularly checked, and the whole branch legally constituted as 
>> a public service, on par with the rest of municipal transit system. Of 
>> course, this does not prevent the profession hosting a number of 'cow-boys', 
>> but on the whole the service is correct - and affordable.
>>
>> Dunno is something like that is possible in Goa.
>>
>> Cheers, p+7D!
>>

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