there is a move to construct the basilica on the banks of zuari river close to the old sancoale church, for which donations were collected during Sunday mass some time back at church of st Michael, Taleigao Goa w,rebello
-----Original Message----- From: Goanet [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org Sent: 14 August 2019 02:43 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Goanet Digest, Vol 14, Issue 461 Send Goanet mailing list submissions to goanet@lists.goanet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org You can reach the person managing the list at goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Goanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Talk on Kaavi Art (anamaria desouzagoswami) 2. Re: Almond Orxata (Venantius J Pinto) 3. Fwd: Making Contact_Illustration_Design_Murals_GoansAll>FrederickDsouza + Venantius J Pinto (Frederick Dsouza) 4. Re: ST Joseph Vaz Basilica in Goa (Gilbert Lawrence) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: 13 Aug 2019 09:39:22 -0000 From: "anamaria desouzagoswami" <anamariagosw...@rediffmail.com> To: <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] Talk on Kaavi Art Message-ID: <20190813093922.29921.qm...@f6mail-235-206.rediffmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Goa Heritage Action Group is pleased to invite you for Goa Heritage Talks - 'Kaavi Kala of the Konkan' presented by Heta Pandit on 19th August, 2019 at 6 pm. Venue Gallery Gitanjali, Fontainhas - Panjim, We look forward to seeing you there. Ana Maria Goswami ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:38:34 -0400 From: Venantius J Pinto <venantius.pi...@gmail.com> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Cc: goanet <goa...@goanet.org> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Almond Orxata Message-ID: <CAOY3LjO-+b275it+ByF8t-uV-3ga=vozacxepn1ca1mpabe...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Konkani: Gadde, gaddo. On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 2:47 PM Roland Francis <roland.fran...@gmail.com> wrote: > During Portuguese times, this was a very popular, sweet, milky-looking > drink, excellent for summer days as was its counterpart of Roman times > made from Barley water. > > In Toronto Orxata, also called Orgeat comes in 750 ml concentrate > bottles, from Italy or Spain. Moderately priced, a little concentrate > mixed with sparkling water or club soda brings back memories of the > fizzy drink sold in Goa towns from mobile carts, locally called gaddas. > > https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/history-of-horchata > > Roland. > Toronto. > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:23:02 -0400 From: Frederick Dsouza <freddydesouz...@gmail.com> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Fwd: Making Contact_Illustration_Design_Murals_GoansAll>FrederickDsouza + Venantius J Pinto Message-ID: <caal6omy3+q3t3cnslagxes7y3at_ssr8a9ptnhdv4rxsok8...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Venantius j pinto is from Goa. Living in Manhattan, New York. Please consider giving him business. Frederick Dsouza ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Venantius J Pinto <venantius.pi...@gmail.com> Date: Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 1:14 PM Subject: Making Contact_Illustration_Design_Murals_GoansAll>FrederickDsouza + Venantius J Pinto To: Frederick Dsouza <freddydesouz...@gmail.com> Dear Frederick? As an artist seeking opportunity, and would like to introduce you and fellow Goans to my artistic labor, via links and attachments. I am a very competent designer, muralist and possess some uncommon skills. As you may know I have painted myrals in South America, eight in Mexico, seven in Colombia, and one in Argemtina. In keeping it brief, here are some links, and attachments. Thinking through Murals <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153374444592370.1073741846.6055 52369&type=1&l=4a9db07be7> Drawings, Illustration, and Prints <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.177171292369.123027.605552369&typ e=1&l=3ef9d2f3af> Process and my Aging <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10155272307272370.1073741860.6055 52369&type=1&l=ba1e148c22> Bokuga / Ink drawings <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.459278547369.254091.605552369&typ e=1&l=6a34df62f9> Shod? <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.430273597369.202049.605552369&typ e=1&l=7b36b6f541> Other albums on FB <https://www.facebook.com/venantius.pinto/photos_albums> A link below to my blog which I will look forward to soon resurrecting. The first piece is an essay of a lecture presented my me at Casa de Goa, Daman and Diu, Lisbon. Levitating Enclosures, Procellous Washes and Shunted Wagons <http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2009/12/levitating-enclosures-procellou s-washes.html> Venantiusaneum: Being and Artistic Labor <http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/> Silk and Spice. 2016. Canon for Bears and Ponderosa Pines. 2018 Pychocosm Nothingness: Kyoto Journal. 2017 Glass Blower: Kyoto Journal. 2017. Kazuko Shiraishi, Kyoto Journal. The Wedding Maternal Community (Nossa Senhora de Guadalupe, Batim) Unforsaken, II Corinthians 4: 8-10 (original art for Amnesty International) What is Substance: Consubstantiation (For Philosophy Now #133) I hope these works will give you a sense of my approach. Thank you, ?Venantius J Pinto ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 20:22:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Gilbert Lawrence <gilbert2...@yahoo.com> To: Goanet Org <goa...@goanet.org> Cc: Martin Dom <dommartin9...@gmail.com>, Mervyn Lobo <mervyn1...@gmail.com>, Filomena Giese <filomenagi...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Goanet] ST Joseph Vaz Basilica in Goa Message-ID: <615356858.3561130.1565727743...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: Mervyn Lobo? There is no body to bring back nor is there now the need for a basilica to hold it in.? If you cannot find St. Jose Vaz in your living space? you will never find him in Kandy. Nor will you find him in a brand new basilica. When I want something from a saint, I do not pray to him/her. All I do is flatter the saint. And the biggest form of flattery (I know) is to imitate the saint's lifestyle. --------GL responds: The point Mervyn makes is likely raised by many diaspora Goans.? So I want to respond to this post thoughtfully and respectfully.? So let's look at this specific example and not talk generalities. ? The issues that likely apply to Mervyn, in varying degrees, apply to a lot of diaspora Goans and to many native Goans too. It would appear that Mervyn is a devotee of St. Jose Vaz and he "imitates (or tries to imitate) the saint's life style."? This specifically in the case of St. Vaz, and likely most saints, is to sacrifice, and give all their wealth to the poor. ? ? Mervyn started life in East Africa and like most Goans in those East African countries went through a tumultuous period (to put it mildly) relocating to other countries. Likely during that period they prayed to Vaz and many other saints.? Likely most diaspora Goans, through a period of trials and tribulations, Mervyn and family landed upright on their two feet in Toronto, Canada.? To make a long story short, Meryn like most diaspora Goans are now in the one to ten percent of the top economic ladder of the people in the? countries where they settled. ? The probability is all of us go through five to six crises through our adult life.? The next crises that arrives at Mervyn front door,? likely will be dealt with similarly - a scurry to the library to find the picture of amcho Goenkar St. Jose Vaz buried in one of the books or a framed picture hanging on a wall or on a stand.? I do not know what St. Jose Vaz response will be.? But the following to Mervyn or to me or most diaspora Goans could logically be: St. Joseph Vaz response: "I have interceded for you, as another Goan, every step of the way and brought you and your family safely through.? Now you personally live in a 3-5 bedroom, 8-room house with two fancy cars in garages.? Yet when I wanted to have my own house for my devotees, you could not spare one-tenth of one percent (0.1%) of your wealth, which BTW I helped you amass."? It is a given that we will not take our wealth with us.? And since most Goans are conservative, we will not waste the money in gambling.? So the reality is the money will be inherited to the children and grandchildren.? Likely they will "blow it up" on cars, homes, vacations, celebrations possibly thanking grandparents for the money.? As a financial person yourself, would it not be wiser for you to invest some of that inheritance money, so that what ever happens to one or the other grandchildren, great-grandchildren etc they will always be assured (thanks to you) of the good graces of St. Jose Vaz; thanks to the people of Goa and the devotees of St. Jose Vaz who will? pray at the basilica? ? In my humble opinion, the lead for the basilica has to come from the Bishop of Goa.? And without that lead, I? think the dialog about a structure to honor St. Vaz is a talk in futility.? As Filomena says there has been some renovation of St. Vaz's place in Goa.? I did not know or have not seen it, and I do not know if it honors Goa's first Saint? ? To me a basilica (or call it what one may) in the midst of the saint's devotees is a natural extension of becoming a saint; and a physical way for the saint to be brought closer to his native people for whose benefit the saint is canonized. For diaspora Goans it is another connecting point for future generations from across the world. Mervyn know the bible better than me.? There are several references to "More is expected from them to whom more is given."? Cynical replies and explanations or flattery of the saints and oneself at the Pearly Gate or at the moment of crises is a poor substitute for lack of past actions. Regards,? GL ? End of Goanet Digest, Vol 14, Issue 461 ***************************************